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CaseyS

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The 2wd output shaft is not the same as the 4wd output shaft. That's the first part that goes into the trans when you put it back together so to change it, you have to tear down the whole transmission. I have an extra output shaft if you need it BTW.

I had a rant on my build page that a 4L60e is not the same as a 4L60e. There are hundreds of variations of parts combos used on these things. You should be able to build one trans with the right combo of parts from the two that you have.

I'm not trying to discourage you at all but now you see why I said hang on when everyone was saying yea, throw a 5.3 in there. There is a definite thought process and knowledge base into making all the parts fit together.
 

06 H3

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I get its a lot of work but I'm willing to take the extra time to do a 5.3 when I can get an entire vehicle with a 5.3 with 36k miles then put another 5cyl in there with more miles and cost more money up front. Makes zero sense. I would rather take a bit longer for a 5.3 and sell off parts on the envoy I will be getting. If it wasn't so backwards I wouldn't be doing this but I refuse to spend more money on a 3.7 or 3.5 with higher miles.
 

06 H3

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Last time with the SAS I spent months collecting parts and researching now I am cramming all of it into a short time period it's gonna be a bumpy road no doubt. I get why you spend tons of time researching trust me. Sometimes when an opportunity comes you can't pass it up.

I can make it easy on myself and just go for a 2008-2010 alpha trans and sell off the other 2 but that's more money in the end
 

CaseyS

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Yes that was the only given when I started researching. I was NOT going to rebuild a 3.5. It was wide open from there but I really wanted to go diesel. You will learn a lot about a transmission quickly if you have to crack it open. Keep plugging.
 

Cyouincourt007

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Miami,Fl
We're all rooting for you bro! I wish I lived close to you I'd be there helping and learning from you. I'm glad there's people here like Casey and 4speed among many many others to bring info to the table be it equipment related or pics of a layout to help. That's awesome and your one of those people too day in and day out, and perhaps down the road you'll be guiding someone in this area just like you already do all the time. This event will add more knowledge and experience to the vast amount you already have. We're cheering for you bro cause one way or another all of us have a similar but not exact decision to make down the road if we want to keep our hummers rolling which I certainly do.
this place is full of pioneers and great helpful people and I'll go now to poar a drink to that! :cheers:
 

RamRod

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Check out PATC, http://www.transmissioncenter.net/4l60e.htm. This is the route I plan on going if my trans every goes. They sell rebuild kits or built transmissions and according to their website they currently have some new, never installed 4l60e's from 2010 H3 that they have upgraded to their level 3 build.
Shhh lol I want/need one of those transfer when mine goes..... current one is on its way out (only lasted 40,000kms! More the other two did).
37's and a super charger are hard on these trans!
 

Kyle

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well while Chris is at work in under the hummer checking things out. Look what I see there is no connecting rod [emoji23][emoji23]


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chaos254

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Shhh lol I want/need one of those transfer when mine goes..... current one is on its way out (only lasted 40,000kms! More the other two did).
37's and a super charger are hard on these trans!
Haha I actually thought the same but I hoping mine will last a long time
 

cbetts

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well while Chris is at work in under the hummer checking things out. Look what I see there is no connecting rod [emoji23][emoji23]


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I guess this is payback for the picture Chris has of your Hummer. Hmmm. I am starting to sense a connection here . . . :giggle:
 

06 H3

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For the amount of money it is to rebuild a motor that is this ****ed up it's not worth it. Not worth it to buy a used motor with 50-60k for 3500 bucks when I can get an entire envoy for 2k with 36k miles and a totaled rear end.

I will be asking plenty of questions on the trans.
 

chaos254

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My biggest concern with the swap in a 06 is the firewall issues. Not sure how much it was changed in the 08+ to make the 5.3 fit.
 

3Hummers

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Chris I will be back in CA the next few weekends if you need help then. If I wind up traveling for a few weeks like I usually do you are welcome to borrow my car for a DD.
 

06 H3

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Thank you Dave I really appreciate it! Right now I have a rental...costco travel had a great deal less then 500 bucks for an entire month but I'm sure the month will be up before I'm done.

Hope to have this done for moab but it will be tough. I will think positively. Haven't seen you since moab of 2013....time flys!

Chaos I'm not too worried. I have a BFH.
 

4speedfunk

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I concur...the firewall is the easiest part. You can see it. It's clear what needs to be done. Just do it.

Unlike the electronics. Who knows what that will turn into. If anybody can do it 06h3 can!
 

High Five H2

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I'll bet you'll get all the parts you need and have the swap done in a weekend, just like your front axle. 06H3 doesn't mess around.
 

4speedfunk

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BTW...Last night, I watched the youtube vid of Squeaky doing John Bull in the snow. Love to see the SAS just sitting there spinning and clawing until the puter finds a grip. So cool. I also think the left front hub smashing into the rock (1:03) may have been what caused the spindle bearing carnage you just fixed...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxlGG9AL3lc
 
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3Hummers

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BTW...Last night, I watched the youtube vid of Squeaky doing John Bull in the snow. Love to see the SAS just sitting there spinning and clawing until the puter finds a grip. So cool. I also think the left front hub smashing into the rock (1:03) may have been what caused the spindle bearing carnage you just fixed...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxlGG9AL3lc

Rocks? On John Bull? Yeah, guess I remember a few. :)
 

Zach

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Surprisingly, it drove up on the trailer. Just needed a little tug to the left to center it due to the way the axle shifted.
 

Kyle

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Chris really gave his all to try and move the envoy to the left but it didn't budge! Shocker! So Zach hooked up to it and pulled it over to the left!
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