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NEW PRODUCT: H3 Lower Control arm bushings

atvspeed4

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After having many poly bushings fail on our own rigs and our friends trucks we developed a set of UHMW carbon black bushings you should never have to replace. We have been running our first set since 2018 and they are still as tight as new. This was on our 6.0L swapped 2006 that saw heavy towing, tons of wheeling and daily driving in our wonderful salt covered roads. Stock bushings and poly bushings allow the tire to move back in the wheel well during heavy braking and forwards during high torque crawling. This dramatically changes suspension geometry and handling.

Kit includes enough bushings to do both sides lower control arms:

https://www.outfitterdesign.com/h3-lower-control-arm-bushings.html


*this product was one of the few required pieces we were waiting for to get the HD front diff to market to control unwanted CV plunge getting closer now
 

alrock

El Diablo
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Great news! I went through at least three sets of LCA bushings on my H3 during it's lifetime - which was only Sunday trips to the farmer's market. 😀
 

atvspeed4

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We did a small run to start it was really to get these in hand so we can get the front diffs closer to being listed for sale and had to buy a larger run. I would buy sooner than later if money allows. We are finding that the market is...changing....for this platform. More of people complaining that their 20 yr old vehicle with high mileage and minimal maintenance is now unreliable vs when we started and people were wheeling $20-40k H3s and meticulously maintaining them.
 

atvspeed4

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Nice!

Anything possibly in the works for the leaf springs? OEM stock is drying up and the siberian poly things are all but out of stock as well
Unfortunately not, the material we are using is not a good fit for this application. Didnt someone a long time ago find a generic bushing that fit? I found that we usually snapped the leaf spring before the bushings wore out so we usually got new bushings with the packs every few years.
 

06 H3

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We did a small run to start it was really to get these in hand so we can get the front diffs closer to being listed for sale and had to buy a larger run. I would buy sooner than later if money allows. We are finding that the market is...changing....for this platform. More of people complaining that their 20 yr old vehicle with high mileage and minimal maintenance is now unreliable vs when we started and people were wheeling $20-40k H3s and meticulously maintaining them.
100%, the cheapness is baffling, I understand the world is expensive, I hate it too, but go buy any other 20+ year old vehicle and it will likely need maintenance as well and the maintenance really isn’t that expensive if you are just doing mild dirt roads and daily road driving.
Unfortunately not, the material we are using is not a good fit for this application. Didnt someone a long time ago find a generic bushing that fit? I found that we usually snapped the leaf spring before the bushings wore out so we usually got new bushings with the packs every few years.
From what I have seen most of the leaf spring failures were in more rusty environments and the metal sleeve rust welded itself to the spring hanger and caused the failure.

I killed 1 leaf spring in all my years, and it was when I had a 43in tire on an undercut rock wall about twice the height of the 43. I always kept my leaf spring bushing sleeve covered with anti seize and never had an issue, except that one time.
 

rascole

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X2 on the leaf spring bushings. I just broke my second main leaf and was lucky enough the shop was able to reuse the Siberian but it is on it's last leg. Why is it not a good fit?
 

BW_Hummer H3

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We did a small run to start it was really to get these in hand so we can get the front diffs closer to being listed for sale and had to buy a larger run. I would buy sooner than later if money allows. We are finding that the market is...changing....for this platform. More of people complaining that their 20 yr old vehicle with high mileage and minimal maintenance is now unreliable vs when we started and people were wheeling $20-40k H3s and meticulously maintaining them.
So would these LCA bushings be included in the Dana 50 front diff package once they are ready?
 

MakoaH3

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California
We did a small run to start it was really to get these in hand so we can get the front diffs closer to being listed for sale and had to buy a larger run. I would buy sooner than later if money allows. We are finding that the market is...changing....for this platform. More of people complaining that their 20 yr old vehicle with high mileage and minimal maintenance is now unreliable vs when we started and people were wheeling $20-40k H3s and meticulously maintaining them.
Ah ok. Good to know and thank you for the transparency. I'm definitely in the minority for willingness to spend on an old vehicle. I've seen it across the FB groups regularly like you mentioned.. "changing"..
 

atvspeed4

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So would these LCA bushings be included in the Dana 50 front diff package once they are ready?
Yes exactly. Our concern is some of our pasts customers over the years feel they are smarter than us and when things do not work out they get really really mad and vocal on social media despite ignoring installation instructions or notes on our website. Its brutal so we are requiring the bushings to be installed with the Dana 50 otherwise there 100% will be CV plunge issues. If someone already purchased the bushings we will look them up to confirm and then back that off the price of the diff. Its not that we are trying to be difficult but its wild the world we live in right now with social media. Really tough people behind a keyboard
 

atvspeed4

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X2 on the leaf spring bushings. I just broke my second main leaf and was lucky enough the shop was able to reuse the Siberian but it is on it's last leg. Why is it not a good fit?
Poly or rubber has give to allow the shackle to twist at the frame and the leaf pack when flexing. Our material practically does not have any give allowing just rotation on the crush sleeve on one axis
 
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