My Birthday Weekend on the Rubicon - Maiden Voyage for the new H3 Long Travel !!!

[MTUH3]

Awesome Bebe, you guys have done a top notch job! I love the last pic in the first post. Amazing

 

[MaxPF]

Once I centered my axles, my 37s stopped rubbing. I have 1" on each side. Was thinking of going up to 38" or 38.5". 39" might be pushing it.

And here I am going back down to 35's

. I will eventually go back up to 37's or 38's, but for now the 35's on H2 wheels were priced right

 

[bebe]

Once I centered my axles, my 37s stopped rubbing. I have 1" on each side. Was thinking of going up to 38" or 38.5". 39" might be pushing it.

What were they rubbing on? I might go to the 39.5's in the next year or two. :asoff:

 

[ReconH3]

What were they rubbing on? I might go to the 39.5's in the next year or two. :asoff:

The front rubbed in the lower rear part of the wheel well. The rear the opposite. In the front lower part of the wheel well. It was obvious the axles weren't in their correct location. With the 60s I could much bigger but I want to keep it reasonable, and not lose any up travel.


"Ex Umbris Venimus"

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[bebe]

That's smart - most people underestimate the importance of up-travel and it's key to stability on big long WB rigs like these.

We moved the front axle forward a little over an inch and we moved the rear back an inch.

 

[Trekker]

Awesome rig and cool photos! You are right on when you say this is what the H3 was meant to be.

 

[06 H3]

That's smart - most people underestimate the importance of up-travel and it's key to stability on big long WB rigs like these.

We moved the front axle forward a little over an inch and we moved the rear back an inch.

How does uptravel help on stability? I thought downtravel was only important...but I also know much less then you two.

 

[Zach]

Great looking rig and awesome pics. And happy late birthday Bebe


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[bebe]

How does up travel help on stability? I thought downtravel was only important...but I also know much less then you two.

It's really hard to explain without a visual aid. But lets see if I can do it.:giggle:

You have six inches of up travel and six inches of down travel. (we are talking front only)

You drive over a 6 inch tall rock - the suspension absorbs the 6 inch rock - the body does not move.

You drive over a 10 inch rock, your suspension absorbs 6 inches on one side and droops 4 inches on the other - the body does not move

You drive over a 14 inch rock, your suspension compresses 6 inches on one side, droops 6 inches on the other, and the body will list to the droop side 2 inches.

So in essence you can drive over a 14 inch rock and only get 2 inches of body lean with up travel.

 

[bebe]

Oh and thank you everyone for the Birthday wishes

 

[06 H3]

you stated it good enough for me to understand! thanks for the translation. It all makes sense.

 

[ReconH3]

That's smart - most people underestimate the importance of up-travel and it's key to stability on big long WB rigs like these.

We moved the front axle forward a little over an inch and we moved the rear back an inch.

That's exactly what we did too. Only difference is that in my case it was probably a lot easier. All I had to do is adjust the arms. You probably had to re-weld everything in a new location. Much more work and complicated.

It's really hard to explain without a visual aid. But lets see if I can do it.:giggle:

You have six inches of up travel and six inches of down travel. (we are talking front only)

You drive over a 6 inch tall rock - the suspension absorbs the 6 inch rock - the body does not move.

You drive over a 10 inch rock, your suspension absorbs 6 inches on one side and droops 4 inches on the other - the body does not move

You drive over a 14 inch rock, your suspension compresses 6 inches on one side, droops 6 inches on the other, and the body will list to the droop side 2 inches.

So in essence you can drive over a 14 inch rock and only get 2 inches of body lean with up travel.

I never could have explained it better. The fact that she talks about the front is actually very important, because that's where the motor is, and all that weight controls the roll of the vehicle. Here is an example that I saw live. A TJ has much more suspension travel up front, than in the rear. A Land Rover Defender, is the opposite. It has a triangulated suspension in the rear that gives a ton of wheel travel. In the front it has a double radius arm which basically immobilizes the axle. Great for road handling. Not so great for 4x4. Both vehicles went though a section that really worked the suspension. The TJ's body barely rolled, whilst the D90 was swinging from side to side.

Fortunately for me, your 14" rock is not enough to tilt my body. :wink:

 

[SlikRick]

Awesome rig Bebe, great to see it in action, and a belated HBD.

 

[ncalphadog]

I'll 2nd....3rd.....4th.....:huh:.....oh whatever, the comment that ya'll did a great job on the H3:thumbs:.
And a Happy belated birfday!

 

[Hummjay]

Hey there Girl! Happy Belated Birthday! I see the Bebe Monster's looking better than ever. Hey everybody-- I saw this beast in action at Moab last April and let me tell you, it's even more impressive in person. This is one hell-a-va truck... It's outta this world!!
:worthy:

 

[bebe]

thank you gurlie! {{HUGS}}

 

[bro of bro of 3 & 3hummer]

I got to ride in it at Moab. Can't wait to do it again.