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List of Businesses to Avoid Doing Business With

Expendable

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Can we start a list of stores to avoid doing business with? such as they don't support second amendment rights, off road rights, etc?

I don't want to give my hard earned money to businesses that do not support rights I believe in our rights/freedoms.

Don't Support Second Amendment Rights:
1. Bank of America
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Don't Support Off Roading Rights:
1. REI
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Sircode13

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I have heard of Geico cancelling liability insurance of gun manufacturers and the restaurant Buffalo Wild Wings has gun free zone signs in all their stores.

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ReconH3

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Add Cheaper Than Dirt for outrageous price gouging, and Dicks Sports for stopping to sell ARs.


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f5moab

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The 2nd amendment part might be difficult since it can be state specific. For example, for a few months, Kroger stores, based out of the Ohio marketing area (affected more than just Ohio), started posting signs, however, in other areas, other Kroger marketing areas did not post. (This changed I believe.) Some stores leave it up to management.
In some cases you have a catch 22. FedEx locations are usually posted no gun; however, if you sell a handgun out of state, you almost have to use FedEx.
In TN, saw quite a few places posted no guns, but not all posted per state law so it was not legal.
Here in UT, I have never seen a no gun sign, and even if there was one, it is not enforceable by law.
 

M22KLARS

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I have heard of Geico cancelling liability insurance of gun manufacturers and the restaurant Buffalo Wild Wings has gun free zone signs in all their stores.

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You'll never get me to stop going to BWW's! :)
 

08H3

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What's the deal with Bank of America? I know there are some "internet rumors" out there, but I've never actually heard anything firsthand, or from the company that would lead me to believe they are anti-gun. What are you basing it on?

I second the BWW comment! The wings are way too good to stay away!

Third, I have to say, that I have never seen a "No guns" sign in an Indiana business, HOWEVER I have seen more than one "Firearms welcomed" sign.
 

3Hummers

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Texas has a very specific law on "No Guns" signs. If they aren't exactly per the state layout and verbiage they aren't legal and mean nothing. Most of the ones I have seen do not match state requirements and can be ignored.
 

ReconH3

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Yep. LaRue Tactical has also said they are going to apply any laws that are imposed on civilians to all police departments and federal agencies.


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f5moab

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was that when Cali banned all .50 cal ?
Yes, and right after that barret cam out with the .416...

If a police agency in any state purchases via a FFL, chances are they get obtain any weapon they want. I know some states and large PD do purchase directly from a factory (as the Feds do) then the manufacturer probably can refuse sale.

Here's a copy of the letter Ronnie Barret sent to the LAPD:
Chief William J. Bratton
Los Angeles Police Department
150 North Los Angeles Street

Re: LAPD 82A Rifle, Serial No. 11**
Dear Chief Bratton,
I, a U.S. citizen, own Barrett Firearms Mfg. Inc., and for 20 years I have built .50 caliber rifles for my fellow citizens, for their Law Enforcement departments and for their nation's armed forces.
You may be aware of the latest negative misinformation campaign from a Washington based anti-gun group, the Violence Policy Center. The VPC has, for three or so years, been unsuccessful in Washington, D.C. trying to demonize and ban a new subclass of firearms, the .50 caliber and other "too powerful" rifles. This type of nibbling process has been historically successful in civilian disarmament of other nations governed by totalitarian and other regimes less tolerant of individual rights than the United States .
The VPC's most recent efforts directs this misinformation campaign at your state, attempting to get any California body to pass any law against .50 caliber firearms. In March 2002 the VPC caused the California State Assembly, Public Safety Committee to consider and reject the issue by a 5 to 0 with 1 abstaining vote.
Regrettably, the same material has been presented to your city council. I personally attended the council meeting in Los Angeles regarding attempts to bar ownership of the .50 caliber rifle in your city. I was allowed to briefly address the council. The tone of the discussion was mostly emotionally based, so the facts that I attempted to provide were ineffective to the extent they were heard at all. The council voted to have the city attorney draft an ordinance to ban the .50, and further, to instruct the city's representatives in Sacramento and in Washington D.C. to push for bans at their respective levels.
At that council meeting, I was very surprised to see an LAPD officer seated front and center with a Barrett 82A1 .50 cal rifle. It was the centerpiece of the discussion. As you know, there have been no crimes committed with these rifles, and most importantly, current California law does not allow the sale of the M82AI in the state because of its detachable magazine and features that make it an "assault weapon." This rifle was being deceptively used by your department. The officer portrayed it as a sample of a currently available .50 cal rifle, available for sale to the civilians of Los Angeles. One councilman even questioned how this rifle was available under current laws, but as I stated, facts were ineffective that day.
Your officer, speaking for the LAPD, endorsed the banning of this rifle and its ammunition. Then he used the rifle for photo ops with the Councilmen each of whom, in handling the firearm, may have been committing a felony. I was amazed.
Since 1968, with the closing of the U.S. Springfield Amory, all of the small arms produced for the various government agencies are from the private sector. Every handgun, rifle or shotgun that law enforcement needs comes from this firearms industry. Unless the City of Los Angeles has plans of setting up its own firearms manufacturing, it may need to guard the manufacturing sources it has now.
When I returned to my office from Los Angeles, I found an example of our need for mutual cooperation. Your department had sent one of your 82A1 rifles in to us for service. All of my knowledge in the use of my rifle in the field of law enforcement had been turned upside down by witnessing how your department used yours. Not to protect and serve, but for deception, photo opportunities, and to further an ill-conceived effort that may result in the use of LA taxpayer monies to wage losing political battles in Washington against civil liberties regarding gun ownership.
Please excuse my slow response on the repair service of the rifle. I am battling to what service I am repairing the rifle for. I will not sell, nor service, my rifles to those seeking to infringe upon the Constitution and the crystal clear rights it affords individuals to own firearms.
I implore you to investigate the facts of the .50, to consider the liberties of the law-abiding people and our mutual coexistence, and to change your department's position on this issue.
Sincerely,
BARRETT FIREARMS MANUFACTURING, INC.

Ronnie Barrett
President
 
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Sircode13

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I think we need a thread for pro 2nd Amendment companies. This one seems to be heading in that direction.
:confused:

I believe Bank of America has stop the corporate credit lines of a few gun manufacturers and gun stores.

Buffalo Wild Wings has uniform window decals from corporate and has confirmed with a gun forum I'm on.
:rolleyes::D

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Sircode13

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and I'm wondering what they use to kill them Buffalo with ??? :giggle:

I would think a Buffalo Gun or they're left over wings from Buffalo Bill's Buffalo kills. They didn't eat Buffalo wings back then.
:rolleyes: :D

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08H3

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:confused:

I believe Bank of America has stop the corporate credit lines of a few gun manufacturers and gun stores.

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I really have nothing invested in this (other than owning a few dozen shares of BAC), but I really think that's just an internet rumor. Not saying that they may or may not have pulled lines of credit, but not just because they were manufacturers or retailers. I just hate to see any company damned because of something that can't be substantiated. I feel there should be solid proof before vilifying any organization as this thread is intended.
 

Sircode13

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Here is a link to a Facebook page that is tracking all of the companies and their stance on the 2nd Amendment. This is a link to their verified companies that are definitely anti-2nd Amendment.

https://m.facebook.com/note.php?refid=17&note_id=152664971550019

They also have list for companies to mitigate rumor control and also the companies that are pro-2nd Amendment or going above and beyond by stopping shipments and sales to Federal & Local government departments as well as to Law Enforcement, in areas where restricted laws governing firearms have been adopted or at least limiting those entities to the type of firearms sold to the civilian population.
:thumbup::D

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f5moab

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In some cases, it is not necessarily the policy of the company, but a poor decision from a stupid manager (e.g., Denny's restaurant, IL; the one down the street from me has no such policy).

That has happened at Walmart stores a few times, a stupid manager makes a stupid decision based on his or her beliefs. Usually a call to the head office sets the situation straight.
 

MaxPF

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So, you BWW fans actually think their wings are good? I've been there and was NOT impressed. I can think of at least 3 places here in the Phoenix metro area that have much better wings than BWW.
 
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