Census workers

[f5moab]

Anyone ever kick a census worker off your porch? I did. Bastard would not leave; that is, until I started to dial the Moab Police department on my cell phone. He then scurried off the porch threatening me with the FBI.:giggle:

 

[alrock]

Haven't seen one in years

 

[Scarsman]

LI had one last time that drove up in their Prius and wanted to ask more about a place nearby. Told him I couldn't tell him anything about them, and he said he just wanted to know if anyone lived there, because he couldn't tell. Told him I didn't live there, and I couldn't tell him anything more. He just wouldn't give up until I told him I was leaving and he was in my way. I got in my H2 and started backing up towards his Prius which he had parked right behind my truck. He ran for his car and then I rode his bumper the whole half mile back out to the county road.

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[Green 1]

I have never met one.

 

[f5moab]

A little more info on this so-called census, which is really not a census but a damn survey from the census bureau,



The American Community Survey (ACS) is a 21-page questionnaire generated by the US Department of Commerce under the auspices of the US Census Bureau. Funded by tax dollars, the lengthy questionnaire is mailed to 2% of the US population annually. The survey has been criticized by many recipients due to its highly invasive questions, mandatory language regarding compliance threatening steep fines, and the dogged follow-up tactics often used by Census Bureau representatives to obtain completed forms.The Census Bureau intends the ACS to replace the “long form” questionnaire of the 10-year Census. Information provided is entered into a central data base. This data bank holds extremely sensitive details about countless residents in every area of the United States.ACS forms are addressed to the “resident” of specific addresses randomly chosen. It is up to the primary resident to fill out the form, supply his or her full name, and the full names of each household member. Other information that must be supplied for each person includes gender, marital status, age, birthdate, and the relationship of one resident to another. Questions also delve into the specific race of each individual, language spoken, education level, citizenship and ancestry. The physical, emotional and mental state of each resident is also to be supplied, including certain medical conditions.

The ACS also requires employment addresses, the time each resident leaves for work, and when he or she arrives home. If the resident doesn’t work, the survey asks if the person could have worked if offered a job, and other related questions. Self-employment, all income sources, and the total income earned over the previous year for each resident is also required.
The form also asks how many children each resident has given birth to, if any, or if any residents are currently pregnant. Military service and retirement questions are also covered in the ACS.
A series of inquiries are dedicated to the residence itself, including when it was built, how much land it occupies, how many rooms it has, number of bathrooms, type of plumbing, and market worth. The survey also asks the cost of monthly utility bills, mortgage or rent, and the dates each resident moved in.
The Census Bureau maintains that the answers to all ACS questions are held in the strictest confidence, and that the information will help city planning efforts. In terms of commerce, business owners can use the ACS database to see whether their services or products would benefit a particular geographic area. For example, a large store might decide to put an outlet in a particular neighborhood based on information provided by the database.
The Census Bureau emphasizes that all questions must be answered. The ACS envelope arrives with a warning that a response is required by law. The form threatens a $100 US Dollar (USD) fine for every question that goes unanswered, and a $500 USD fine for every question answered untruthfully.
While big business benefits from having as much information about citizens as possible, many citizens are unwilling to give away their right to privacy. Hence, many are refusing to return the ACS. This automatically results in an additional form being sent, followed by a series of phone calls. In 21% of the cases, an unannounced, personal visit from a Census Bureau representative follows in a final attempt to get the survey completed. Often, more than one visit takes place.
In the end, however, the Census Bureau has no authority to enforce the laws that require the ACS be answered. The Census Bureau can press formal charges for non-compliance, but this is somewhat impractical given the number of forms that are not returned, or that are returned incomplete. A lawsuit would likely draw media attention and a public outcry that would very probably bring an end to the survey or end mandatory compliance. As of early 2007, no legal action has been taken against anyone for refusing to answer the ACS.

 

[3Hummers]

I got one of the forms a number of years back. I called about it and was told I had to fill it out and return it. I threw it away and never heard another thing from them.

 

[Firesquirt]

We are all required to answer the 10 year census by law, The census is one of the ways we get our voice on the hill, more people more voice. However as stated above the Bureau has no authority to enforce the requirement.

But the last census was in 2010,

Unfortunately, along with the legitimate census takers employed by the U.S. Census Bureau, many scumbags posing as census takers will fan out across the nation trying to steal identities, rob homes and who knows what else. How can you identify a legitimate U.S. Census Bureau census taker? **

This is what to look for;
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A Real Census Taker: **

• Will ALWAYS have an ID badge that contains a Department of Commerce watermark and expiration date.
• The census taker may also be carrying a black canvass bag with a Census Bureau logo..
• Will NEVER ask to enter your home.
• Will ONLY ask the ten questions that appear on the census form.
• Will NEVER ask for your Social Security number or any other financial information.
• Will NEVER ask or suggest that you submit information to the census online. There is no legitimated Web site for entering census information.

What if You Still Doubt the Census Worker's Identity?
If for any reason you are not sure of the census worker's identity, immediately call your regional U.S. Census Center to confirm they are employed by the Census Bureau. Misrepresenting oneself as a census worker is a federal felony.

** About.com http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/censusandstatistics/a/censustakerid.htm

Good job on being careful
Be safe

 

[DJinCO]

When I was stationed in Washington DC in the early 1990's I was at The Office of Naval Intelligence, located in Suitland, MD. On the same facility, is the Census Bureau. My wife got a job there, in the Year 2000 Census office. These were the people coming up with the questions to put on the 2000 census form.

Given that the census bureau is an unbelievable government bureaucracy, there is no way possible that the worker in Moab, Utah would ever get an FBI agent to come out and even talk to you, let alone come arrest you. I would have done the same thing. Only I would have asked them if they wanted the phone number for the FBI and offered them a phone to call and make the report.

Yea, go ahead. Call the FBI. Here's a phone.

 

[f5moab]

How is this turning into a caution on a fake census worker?

This was not a fake census worker he had the correct ID hanging around his neck. And I believe I know what a federal ID looks like; I have one; just does not say US Census Bureau.

This was not technically a census, as I posted earlier, it is a survey put out by the census bureau, and it is about 27 pages long. It started last year or the year before. US congress voted to remove funding, but the liberal butt heads in the senate never passed it so it was killed. I have thrown away at least three mailed copies; maybe more.

And this so-called survey asks questions such as how long your commute is to work, where do you work, etc.

 

[f5moab]

When I was stationed in Washington DC in the early 1990's I was at The Office of Naval Intelligence, located in Suitland, MD. On the same facility, is the Census Bureau. My wife got a job there, in the Year 2000 Census office. These were the people coming up with the questions to put on the 2000 census form.

Given that the census bureau is an unbelievable government bureaucracy, there is no way possible that the worker in Moab, Utah would ever get an FBI agent to come out and even talk to you, let alone come arrest you. I would have done the same thing. Only I would have asked them if they wanted the phone number for the FBI and offered them a phone to call and make the report.

Yea, go ahead. Call the FBI. Here's a phone.

Believe me, Doug; this Doug is not worried at all about the Feds showing up a the house. At least Feds who want to arrest me; Feds who want to play might.
As far as the locals....Moab Police know me too well, they might come out to arrest the worker for trespassing, the command Sgt, might ask why I don't need a body bag. The locals Deputies....well, depends on which one. If I know him, it will be ok, however, if I don't they might get a kick out of a Fed being harassed by a Fed.:giggle:

 

[LagunaH1]

A few years ago I "had" to deal with a census bureau worker who kept calling me to follow up on a letter they had sent: a survey. The worker told me they were required by law to keep calling and showing up in person until they had "made contact". I didn't go so far as to validate tat claim but I don't doubt that's what the workers are being told.

 

[DJinCO]

Agree. Stupidity reproduces stupidity. We are doomed to failure given what we are facing over the course of the next few years. I don't see anyone coming forward to replace those who would intend to bend us over a table.

Everyone says that the current crop in Washington DC needs to go, but what happens on election day?

My warning to ALL of my federal elected officials, "you will not get my vote, or any of my financial support (for those who used to) as a result of this fiasco." I cannot believe the propaganda associated with the sequester and continuing resolution.

2% reduction my ass. 22 days of furlough is more than 2% of my salary. This mess is all of our elected politician's fault. Too much spending; too much debt; too much of too much.

...and that's all I have to say about that.

 

[deserth3]

Well now I know why I saw all of those black helicopters flying south...:whaa:

The last idiot who came to my door got showed the two prominent "no solicitor" signs. I probubly would do it to a census taker too. And I don't do surveys either. They're as truthfull as B.O.:giggle:

 

[JGBB04]

I got one of those before, being busy at the time it was put in it's proper folder in the circular file for later use then transferred to my long term file storage. Awhile later the lovely census worker shows up knocking on the door waking me up, he started his spiel & I cut him off with a quick no thanks & slammed the door. He came back 2 more times but I wouldn't bother going to the door & they finally gave up.

 

[twinmill28]

This was not a fake census worker he had the correct ID hanging around his neck. And I believe I know what a federal ID looks like; I have one; just does not say US Census Bureau.

Isn't it a crime to have a fake federal ID?

On the other hand--I don't have any problem telling anybody I have 5 people in my house (not counting the illegals--good landscapers are hard to find and I can't afford to lose any more).
Now, when people start asking questions beyond that--well, they'll get a close up look at the outside of my front door.
The good thing in my neighborhood is it is gated with no soliciting authorized. The only people who show up at my door have a reason to be here. Ok, other than that idiot True Green lawn guy who got in the neighborhood to do a neighbors house and decided to start knocking door to door. My wife innocently asked about him going around the area, then dropped the bomb when she told him she was on the board and he needed to leave, NOW, she was two seconds from calling the cops.