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Bigunit

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20k for a T Alpha Adventure with 37k mi.?

4speed, where? Been smoking the wacky tabaky again? :)

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4speedfunk

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Don't confuse what people pay...with its value. If you really want to see what a Hummer is worth...ask a dealer what they'll give you for yours. That's the number you should be looking at.
 

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73k mi. Instead of 37k, not an Alpha like the other one ...and the reserve is?

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4speedfunk

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What is it worth? There is only one reference standard. Check out the COMPLETED LISTINGS on Ebay.

Go ahead. Check it out. I'll wait. Make sure you scroll down thru 3 or 4 pages worth.

What the numbers mean:
Notice there are pages and pages of RED ending prices, with a few GREEN ending prices inter-mixed among them. The GREEN prices are the ones that matter...those are ones that actually sold. The RED listings are just dreamers...people that actually think a Hummer will bring what they're asking. Forget what KBB says. Forget what you see painted on the windshield. Forget what you see on the web. THE GREEN LISTINGS SHOW WHAT HUMMERS SELL FOR. Not rumors. Not some b.s. value the the industry has put on it. These are actual selling prices. Period.

At this time there is only one T that has sold for $30K..and it was totally decked-out and practically brand new (8K miles). But notice how many other H3/H3T's had 15, 20, or even 30 bids and still didn't sell? That should be telling you something. It tells you that many Hummer owners are completely delusional about their vehicle's value. Some of these poor idiots have listed, re-listed, re-re-listed...each time getting many bids and each time refusing to sell. Its like they have somehow convinced themselves that their Hummer is worth more than it actually is...and they refuse to get a reality check. Its both funny and sad at the same time. Trust me dude. If your H3 got fifteen bids...and it topped $20K...SELL IT! Quit playin games with yourself.

Now go back and take a look at the RED listings again. Even though these sellers didn't close the deal...there is some valuable info here for the buyer. Focus on the RED listings that got over 10 bids, and another interesting number will begin to appear. This shows you the average mean price that people bid up to. As you can see it tends to hover between $6K and $12K. After that...bidding falls off sharply...the auction doesn't meet reserve...and it ends without a sale. This average price shows you what real people are willing to really pay for a Hummer. You'll notice that very few H3's actually sell for more than $13K. Oh sure they list for $25K. They occasionally get bids for $25K. But they rarely sell for anywhere near $25K. The average selling number is more like $13K.

Use this "completed listing" info to your advantage...it tells you exactly what you should be paying. Beware, it also tells you what your's should sell for. Don't be a dreamer.
 

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Ok CJ, I'll take you up on your challenge...find me an '09 H3T Alpha Adventure with 37k mi. for $20K...go ahead. I'll wait.

In the meantime, I have no idea how you can say thet the RED (not sold) prices on Ebay are the determinative factor to the true value of a vehicle or anything else for that matter, because your'e not factoring in the other part of the "free market" equation in determining market value - and that is, what a seller is willing to accept in order to make the sale - that along with what a buyer is willing to pay is what determines "market value" - not what a low-ball buyer is willing to offer. We are talking past each other at this point - you are saying that there is a certain price point that you and others who are looking for bargains, are not willing to exceed because after that price point, it's no longer a bargain to you and you won't buy. What I am saying is that market value is based on what a willing buyer pays a willing seller and a sale is made. That is what determines market value (See, Econ 101).

...ok, enough of free market economics, any luck finding me an '09 H3T Alpha Adventure with 37k mi. for $20K? :wink: I have cash in hand and ready to buy.
 

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There is a lot of truth to what 4speed is saying however eBay is only one outlet for buying/selling vehicles. I know several car dealers that routinely sell H2 and H3 models. They also routinely sell them for much more than the eBay going rates. Not everyone will buy a car from half way around the country. Not everyone will buy a vehicle site unseen. Dealers offer access to financing that many people can't get on their own. Dealers usually offer some type of short term warranty with the purchase and/or you can buy a legitimate extended warranty through them.
To his point you see the same thing in Autotrader. Many of the higher priced vehicles remain for sale for extended periods and get relisted numerous times. Whether they ever sell or at what price remains a mystery. Cars also sell for different prices in different parts of the country and that plays somewhat of a role.
I have bought several vehicles site unseen but they were either new or I was buying at enough of a discount I felt comfortable that I could correct any latent deficiences and still have a value buy.
 

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I have cash in hand and ready to buy.

Doesn't mean much to a dealers anymore. In fact...the profit margins are so slim they need your financing to make money. You might have better luck finding an individual...some poor shmuck going through a divorce or finally coming to the realization that his H3 will never get close to 20mpg. :giggle: They're out there...be patient, the right one will come along.
 

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Dealers make huge markups on interior and paint protection, extended warranties, alarms, etc. Why do you think they make you sit down with the finance lady even when you are paying cash?
 

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I had my friend call the dealership to see if they would wholesale it to him for a buyer he had and the dealership said they were in it 29k so they would let it go for 29500 wholesale. With this being one of the only h3t alphas for sale with that low of mileage I think someone will definitely pay top dollar
 
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