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How To: 1" Hockey Puck Body Lift install

cbetts

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Mudbug did a 1" body lift on his H3. I believe he used a proper kit and not hockey pucks.
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08SolarFlareH3

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backcountryislife

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Folks love spending other people's money:wink:

I'd love to see how the Daystar setup once installed is in any way superior to a stack of hockey pucks & some bolts.

By the time you're done with the puck route, you're looking at about $25 in parts or less & some time. If you're handy with a drill (technical stuff) and you can pick some correct bolts from a hardware store bin, you'll have saved yourself about $145 for MAYBE 2 hrs worth of dickin around compared to what the daystar would take.

If I had a reason to do a body lift I'd be going that route for sure. Here being less tippy is always the main battle, so I'm nervous about doing a body lift.
But I'm a cheap AZZ... I just figure that's $145 toward some other mod!


btw, for reference: pretty much the exact same job. (same basic frame anyhow)

http://www.355nation.net/forum/how-chassis-suspension/21437-how-1-hockey-puck-body-lift-install.html
 
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08SolarFlareH3

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Folks love spending other people's money:wink:

I'd love to see how the Daystar setup once installed is in any way superior to a stack of hockey pucks & some bolts.

By the time you're done with the puck route, you're looking at about $25 in parts & some time. If you're handy with a drill (technical stuff) and you can pick some correct bolts from a hardware store bin, you'll have saved yourself about $145 for MAYBE 2 hrs worth of dickin around compared to what the daystar would take.

If I had a reason to do a body lift I'd be going that route for sure. Here being less tippy is always the main battle, so I'm nervous about doing a body lift.
But I'm a cheap AZZ... I just figure that's $145 toward some other mod!
I also suggest the PA body lift blocks for $1.95ea and they would save you the hassle of drilling the pucks out plus your getting something actually designed for the right application. A hockey puck is going to run you $1.99 anyways.
 

cbetts

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This thread has me considering this mod. I personally would buy the proper mount kit since it would come with new bolts of the proper grade and spacers made out of material that were designed to hold up to the elements.

I found the Daystar kit on Amazon for the same price they are selling for on EBay. :link:
 

06 H3

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Im all for saving money where I feel it is necessary. Thats the reason I still run my stock rims and with spacers for the rancho kit instead of forking out money on rims and new tires but sometimes there are places I feel you dont wanna go cheap on. Personally I would not do a body lift as I have no need to but if I was I would get the kit as it has been tested and designed. I wouldnt be able to feel safe going down the road knowing that I am sitting on some hockey pucks I got from the local sports store.
 

backcountryislife

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Im all for saving money where I feel it is necessary. Thats the reason I still run my stock rims and with spacers for the rancho kit instead of forking out money on rims and new tires but sometimes there are places I feel you dont wanna go cheap on. Personally I would not do a body lift as I have no need to but if I was I would get the kit as it has been tested and designed. I wouldnt be able to feel safe going down the road knowing that I am sitting on some hockey pucks I got from the local sports store.


If this were something new, that had never been done before perhaps I'd agree with you, but hockey pucks for body lift is something that has been done for MANY years.
Keep in mind, you're still using the original material that came with the vehicle, but just adding to it.

We're talking about 12 chunks of a dense material (body lifts are made from an assortment of different materials, from aluminum (no WAY I'd use aluminum) to plastic) and some bolts. There's no "engineering" here, it's VERY simple.

As for testing... I'd put money (a lot of it) on hockey pucks having more miles of "testing" on them than any one of the body lift kit mfg's setups do.
Do a search... this isn't some random "maybe it'll work" kind of thing... it's more tried & true than likely any "specific" mod than any of us have put on our vehicles!


Search for "hockey puck body lift problems" or "issues"... not a single person saying they've got problems with a vehicle they lifted.


08SFH3, you got a link for those blocks you mention? I can't find them on PA's site, probably not looking in the right place.
 

Kurt

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I think you can get import spacer lifts for a few dollars anyways. Or you can use metal blocks, or go to mcmaster.com pick out any material you want and mill/drill out your own.

I wouldn't bother with hockey pucks, that's for the extremely lazy. You drill the puck and you lose the structural support of the rubber around the drill cut [without a reinforcement collar] of some sort] and eventually that rubber is going to chunk and tear apart.

I know in Canada, any MOT/DMV safety inspection will automatically fail you if you have a hockey puck lift, they're really cracking down on it up there.. go figure :giggle:
 

Big2dabank

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I must of missed something or I was too lazy to ready the link, but why in the hell would someone put a 1" body lift on a lowered truck. Hocky puck or not, that makes no sense to me.

How dense is the polyurethane material used for a hockey puck? Is it uv resistant, does it get brittle over time with exposure to the elements. Personally, I don't think its that cheap if there is a risk of having to replace pucks one or twice a year, due to stress or strain and general harshness of outdoor use.
 

backcountryislife

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The links are in my first post :wink:

I never learned to read.:emb:

Thanks!


Funny how much resistance there is to a simple thing that's been done for generations. (I can kind of understand from Big2... being from florida a hockey puck would likely be taken as a giant cockroach by accident :giggle:)

You get a lot of UV under your truck? lots more sideways light in Florida? :wink:


Either way, the $2 blocks that ARE intended for it, then adding some bolts... still gonna save $130 or more for the trip to the hardware store. Why would someone waste $130+ to let someone else pick out bolts for them?



btw florida boy... here's a vid about hockey puck construction... they're made from rubber btw.:huh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xFbO4sQjPw
 
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5gn-h3t

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I was going to make a 1" body lift for my H3T with steel or aluminum blocks. I couldn't get the hardened M12 and M14 bolts for less than what the whole Daystar kit lists for on eBay.
 

SolidusJ

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Thanks for the feed back, I'll more or less go with the daystar kit unless I find the bolt. Noting going to look to hard because me and the wife made a pat that I couldn't buy parts till January 13.
 

Kurt

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There's more than the material costs for a product.

If you are running a business, you'll have to spend time and money doing research on a product, testing it out, writing documentation/instructions and providing support, acquiring materials/supply, paying labor/insurance/phone/web and other overhead, especially if you run and shop with staff and then cover all that with a profit margin. That's why a few dollars worth of rubber and bolts winds up costing $100+ at retail.

Not putting down the kits or anything, I'll do it myself, but I know to put a body lift on my truck, the SAE grade 8 cad plated bolts, locknuts and hardened washers alone will run me about $60-80. And that's just for the fasteners.

If you are going to roll your own, make sure you get SAE rated bolts on it from a good [US] supplier, don't replace good OEM body mount bolts with made in china home depot fasteners.. who know what those will do in a collision :)
 

58Bisc

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I've installed the DayStar kit after spending too much time researching this subject. In the end they all do the same thing. There are pro's and con's on each, as well as fan's and na sayer's for each. For me, it was just way easier to order the kit, have it show up with all of the correct parts and install it with a known system that works. Took me about three hours of true labor to do it by myself. The hardest part was the rad shroud. The Alpha has a two piece from what I could tell. The instructions only showed the V8 in an H3T. My I5 has a slip shroud. I could not find any pictures of this set up, so I was forced to do a trial and error. I just spun the lower half to the top. Drilled two holes and ran zip ties through the hole to lock it in the up position. The stock bolts are pressed into the factory washers. I found that if I turned them upside down in an open vise and hit them a couple of time with a BFH they will come out and you can reuse the washer and stock lift spacers. The front break lines need a mild push down and the wiring harness on the drives side needs a little re-adjusting. I did a complete write up with pictures on another forum.
 
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autumn walker

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hockey pucks, specifically, are illegal where I live - if you have them on your vehicle and are caught your inspection sticker is immediately revoked and you have to remove them (we do two year inspections here).
 

954paulo

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Got my Daystar lift. Installed it in about 2hr in 101 heat lol.

If you have a manual truck the lift makes the shifter 1" shorter. Feels much better and less lick a giant horse cock lol.




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cbetts

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If you have a manual truck the lift makes the shifter 1" shorter. Feels much better and less lick a giant horse cock lol.

Yeah, took me a while to get used to that. The plus side is it gives you more room for an aftermarket shifter.
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I still need to find a way of closing off the gap in the front though.
 

954paulo

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I didn't think installing an aftermarket shift knob was possible?


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