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bilstein shocks

rebell_h3

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I know there are some people on here that run the bilstein shocks. My question is how does your front end feel? stiff and bouncy or soft and smooth. I have the Pro Comp MX6 shocks and not to impressed. I replaced my torsion keys and im sitting about 24. I like the look of my ride but it feels like I'm driving a log truck through the woods.
 

alrock

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Try lowering to 23 1/4 and see how the ride feels then. I suspect you'll realize a noticeable improvement
 

WarMongur

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My bilsteins feel soft and mooshy. Cornering sucks, its very "rolly". The first time I went off road with them they dove so bad when I was off camber I thought I was going to flip. I'm going to yank em and put the stockers back on.
 

Pappibri

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Every since I leveled my truck it has rode like crap. I had it at 23 1/2 then put it down to 23 even, and I still feel every lil bump hard. I think I will get the adventure shocks and put the nut up there and add the bumpstops. I am thinking of adding the Daystar 1 Inch bodylift as well..
 

Pappibri

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This is directly from Bilsteins site....

Series: 4600 Series
Part Number: 24-188401
Old Part Number: F4-BE5-C513-H1
Collapsed Length (IN): 17.1
Extended Length (IN): 22.17
Lower Mount Type: Eye 14.2mm
Upper Mount Type: pin
Internal Design: Monotube
Finish: Yellow paint
Boot Included: Blue straight


Series: 5100 Series (Ride Height Adjustable)
Part Number: 24-186711
Old Part Number: F4-BE5-C475-H1
*Collapsed Length (IN): 17.03
*Extended Length (IN): 22.56
Lower Mount Type: Eye 14.2mm
Upper Mount Type: Stem
Internal Design: Monotube
Finish: Zinc plated
Reservoir: No
Body Design: 46mm ID snap ring grooved body (Coilover)
Boot Included: Black straight
 

Hunner

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This is directly from Bilsteins site....

Series: 4600 Series
Part Number: 24-188401
Old Part Number: F4-BE5-C513-H1
Collapsed Length (IN): 17.1
Extended Length (IN): 22.17
Lower Mount Type: Eye 14.2mm
Upper Mount Type: pin
Internal Design: Monotube
Finish: Yellow paint
Boot Included: Blue straight


Series: 5100 Series (Ride Height Adjustable)
Part Number: 24-186711
Old Part Number: F4-BE5-C475-H1
*Collapsed Length (IN): 17.03
*Extended Length (IN): 22.56
Lower Mount Type: Eye 14.2mm
Upper Mount Type: Stem
Internal Design: Monotube
Finish: Zinc plated
Reservoir: No
Body Design: 46mm ID snap ring grooved body (Coilover)
Boot Included: Black straight

Is that the Bilstien you are using? Adjustable coil over? Do the coils clear the a-arms?

I have tried to find a coil over of some brand, not for total torsion bar replacement but like an overload shock for pickups that would fit but have been told it was not available in the proper mounts for the H3. So someday want to mod some mounts.

That is not the Bilstein that is being used on an H3 or at least by most people I know of, my self included.
The package Phil at Trail Duty came up with was the model for the front below and can be purchased with the 1/2 longer bump stops which fits the way my H3 is set up. What a coincidence?

F4-BE5-C153-HO
GM K1500 LFTD FRT Zinc

Comparing any new shock to a set of OEM you have 50,000+ miles on is not really a good comparison.
It sounds like ride height has become involved in evaluating a shock, true it should be considered but both brands of shocks should be run at the same height to also level out the comparison. Over cranking the torsions will induce some other ride characteristics that may or may not be acceptable to some, as I have read.
I guess the judgement of shocks like most things is relative to the setup. Torsion lift amount, tire pressure, tire size and type, amount of weight you have on the front end and total amount of added weight and driving surface and what vehicle you are comparing the ride to.
My OEM with 40,000 miles and lots of rough road service got to where they could not control the ride. Curves on studder bump gravel and dirt roads the rear end would bounce around to the side (until stabiltrack control kicked in) and the front end was bouncing.
I happened to try the common replacement 5100 series in the model stated above and of course were better than worn OEM. They seemed to control things much better. How much better compared to new OEM, well don't know and can't say. I do however feel these are working well, have not leaked, yet, and were the added length I needed. So I am pleased with mine but always look forward to something better for my type of driving.
Having your rig set up so it hammers the shock at it's limits will destroy just about any off the shelf shock.
 
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rebell_h3

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Thanks everyone for input. I'm running Pro Comp MX6 shocks on it, the website and dealer say that these shocks can be ran in stock height or 2.5 lifted height. My concern is that the MX6 and stock shocks are the same lenght and I'm wondering if that is the reason for the rough riding. could i put a shock extension on the front and relieve some of the problem. I just hate to drop the front end down if there is another way.
 

Hunner

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You can try dropping a half inch nut which is half inch tall on top and see if it helps. It won't of course thread on but is 1/2 inch tall to space it down.
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Hunner

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My bilsteins feel soft and mooshy. Cornering sucks, its very "rolly". The first time I went off road with them they dove so bad when I was off camber I thought I was going to flip. I'm going to yank em and put the stockers back on.

Wow that is a completly different result, if you are using the correct model.
Yeah run those OEM Tennco stockers they are awesome! (for about 10,000 miles.)
 

rebell_h3

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will try that this weekend and see what happens. i read about the extended bump stops which length should i go with, or do i need to measure first.
 

Hunner

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I would suggest to only use the 1/2 inch longer than stock. But then that is just my opinion.
I ran my 06 like that for 40,000+ miles and now the 08 with Bilsteins for 40,000+ miles with success.
That is what I made in 06 and then upgraded to the Trail Duty ones when they became available. They are stiffer than the OEM being made from poly.
The other longer one was not a successful product for a stock H3 with only torsion bar lift.
 
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alrock

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Rebel, the reason I suggested dropping the front end is two fold: one, your ride will dramatically improve and two, you will greatly reduce front end wear and tear.

I used to have my front end at 24 and quickly wore out my steering rack where it meets the tie rods and I tore CV boots prematurely. I won't run my truck that high any more simply because I don't like the ride and I can't afford the hundreds of dollars of wear and tear
 
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