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MilamJR

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There are now reports of a software “glitch” confirmed in one PA county that changed 6,000 votes from Red to Blue and flipped the county Blue. 40+ other counties in PA use these same machines and software. Plus so do other states. America needs to figure out the total impact of this so that confidence can be restored.


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Jeff V.

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The media does not certify election results. Proof of voter fraud in the 2016 election...easy, look at all of the Democratically controlled counties that reported vote totals in excess of the registered voters in the jurisdiction. You don't have to go to court to show that fraud was involved or be a legal eagle to see it. Now proving exactly who perpetrated required the investigation and court cases.


About that...

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...consin-doesnt-have-more-ballots-cast-registe/

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/l...e-county-precinct-reported-102-voter-turnout/

https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/p/is-voter-registration-in-los-angeles
 

Jeff V.

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Silly me for trying to discuss current events.

I'm sure the proof will turn up any day now. With so much blatant, rampant fraud, it should be a piece of cake to prove.

Biden is gonna be so screwed. Him and Hillary can have adjoining cells.

Yep.

It's coming. So, so screwed.

Aaaaany day now.
 

3Hummers

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I didn't say it would be easy to convict anyone. I also think that enough screwy things happened in enough places that there was some organization to this mess. If there was organization they likely had a plan to hide their efforts. ( beyond putting up cardboard on the windows so no one could see what they were doing or moving the equipment to a location no one could observe them from. There are starting to be lots of affadavits from people that saw fraudulent activity. Who knows where this winds up. Gore didn't concede until December 12. Lets let Trump run his traps and see what develops. When large chunks of votes come in for one candidate and none for another that is statistically improbable., When people throw vote counters and poll watchers out of areas they are legally allowed to be so they can work unobserved that likely means they don't want you to see what they are doing, when they ignore court orders to allow vote/poll watchers to observe the process that would generally mean something they don't want to get caught at is about to happen, when they stop counting the votes for no reason and start up when the know the oppositions vote count that looks awfully suspicious. When they find Trump ballots in the trash/military ballots in the trash that are most for Trump that seems suspicious. They are actually prosecuting a Belton Texas woman for 134 individual counts of election fraud, They caught a couple of Democratic politicians in Houston running a ballot harvesting scheme that resulted in large numbers of illegal ballots...it goes on and on. Will they turn back enough votes for Trump to win...who knows. All I know is that the media doesn't get to declare who won. They are still counting in AZ and Trump has pulled to within 1/2 of a percent.
 

MilamJR

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There are now reports of a software “glitch” confirmed in one PA county that changed 6,000 votes from Red to Blue and flipped the county Blue. 40+ other counties in PA use these same machines and software. Plus so do other states. America needs to figure out the total impact of this so that confidence can be restored.


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Correction it was Michigan not PA.


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MilamJR

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Real Clear Politics has pulled their call for PA so neither candidate has the projected minimum 270 electoral votes yet according to them. This looks like it is going to be a rough ride.


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I'm not stepping into this debate, BUT I wanted to say how refreshing it is to see a discussion like this on the internet remain civil. That's unheard of in today's age.
 

MilamJR

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I'm not stepping into this debate, BUT I wanted to say how refreshing it is to see a discussion like this on the internet remain civil. That's unheard of in today's age.

I am commanded by Jesus to love everyone. Also, I don’t agree with anybody 100% of the time so why should I expect that from anyone else. We have let the internet destroy our ability to agree to disagree and the anonymity of these platforms empowers people to type what they would never say to your face. That is not the internet’s fault that is our choice.


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Jeff V.

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Where were they not allowed in? I keep hearing this, but it's never followed up with specifics. The closest thing I can come up with is a case in PA where they said they wanted to stand closer than the 6 foot limit imposed out of Covid concerns.

In every legal case the Trump campaign has brought thus far, they've either failed to meet the minimum qualifications for evidence, resulting in the cases being tossed out, or they've scored minor victories rooted in technicalities and procedural errors rather than actual fraud. His people are tying up the system in Maricopa County, AZ over one hundred and eighty (180) votes out of almost 166,000 cast. None of this will have any bearing on the outcome of individual precincts, let alone entire counties, states, or the nation.

They were ramping up this attempt to undermine the results before the election even happened. In all that time they haven't proven even one incidence of actual fraud flipping the result for a single location, let alone the entire election.

Even Tucker Carlson of all people has given up on this 'widespread fraud' and 'stolen election' nonsense.
 

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PA, they were escorted out by Police while the Democratic counters cheered. It was on TV. Counting went on in Atlanta after Republican counters were told it would stop at 10:30. They left and the Democrats started counting again. I doubt that any of this will flip the election but as Democrats have chanted for years, count every vote. Republicans chant count every legal vote.
 

MilamJR

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I'll bet you $50 to a charity of your choice that it won't flip a single district.

Please be specific. A Congressional district in the Presidential election? Only in PA or anywhere? Only due to poll watchers being kept out or any reason? If your answer to all 3 is yes you are on as long as your charity is not one that supports the slaughter of babies. My charity will be Operation Underground Railroad who rescues children from sex trafficking.


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Jeff V.

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One voting precinct/district flipping from Biden to Trump as a result of fraud. Fabricated or altered ballots, falsified counts of ballots, things like that. Anywhere in the country. My bar for this is pretty low.

The states have to have totals certified and electors ready by Dec 14, so that seems like as good a deadline as any.

Mine are Harvesters and animal charities. ASPCA, local animal rescues, etc.
 
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MilamJR

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One voting precinct/district flipping from Biden to Trump as a result of fraud. Fabricated or altered ballots, falsified counts of ballots, things like that. Anywhere in the country. My bar for this is pretty low.

The states have to have totals certified and electors ready by Dec 14, so that seems like as good a deadline as any.

Mine are Harvesters and animal charities. ASPCA, local animal rescues, etc.

Challenge accepted.


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Jeff V.

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Under direct questioning from judges in PA, the Trump legal team is admitting there's not even an allegation of fraud. They're hanging this on 592 ballots that had addressing faults. These ballots are segregated, are not part of the current count, and there's not even the suggestion that they're all Biden votes or any such nonsense. BTW, this is in a county where they're behind by 130,000 votes, and a state where they're behind by 46,000 votes.

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-electi...enses-are-on-the-line-if-they-lie-to-a-judge/

THE COURT: In your petition, which is right before me — and I read it several times — you don’t claim that any electors or the Board of the County were guilty of fraud, correct? That’s correct?
MR. GOLDSTEIN: Your Honor, accusing people of fraud is a pretty big step. And it is rare that I call somebody a liar, and I am not calling the Board of the DNC or anybody else involved in this a liar. Everybody is coming to this with good faith. The DNC is coming with good faith. We’re all just trying to get an election done. We think these were a mistake, but we think they are a fatal mistake, and these ballots ought not be counted.
THE COURT: I understand. I am asking you a specific question, and I am looking for a specific answer. Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592 disputed ballots?
MR. GOLDSTEIN: To my knowledge at present, no.
THE COURT: Are you claiming that there or improper influence upon the elector to these 592 ballots?
MR. GOLDSTEIN: To my knowledge at present. no.
 

MilamJR

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Under direct questioning from judges in PA, the Trump legal team is admitting there's not even an allegation of fraud. They're hanging this on 592 ballots that had addressing faults. These ballots are segregated, are not part of the current count, and there's not even the suggestion that they're all Biden votes or any such nonsense. BTW, this is in a county where they're behind by 130,000 votes, and a state where they're behind by 46,000 votes.

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-electi...enses-are-on-the-line-if-they-lie-to-a-judge/

Keep me updated.


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In the midst of an ongoing fight for the oval office and claims of massive amounts of election fraud in the 2020 presidential election, one worker for the Dominion company — who provides the voting machines for precincts — has apparently signed a sworn affidavit alleging that 100 thousand ballots were brought in the back door for Biden in MI to catch him up to Trump.

https://reformationcharlotte.org/20...-thousand-biden-ballots-brought-in-back-door/

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Jeff V.

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Well that was easy to track down.

https://www.greatlakesjc.org/wp-content/uploads/Supplemental-Brief-Motion-for-TRO-Costantino.pdf

The critical part is in paragraph 8 of the actual statement. It boils down to "I saw two food trucks come in, but I never saw any food. And then they announced 100,000 ballots appeared later that day".

"Apparently" it was the infamous news van and the wagon full of camera equipment. Which would explain why she didn't see any food come out of it. It should also be noted she didn't see any ballots come out of it either. She just thinks the timing was weird.

https://www.metrotimes.com/news-hit...-after-deadline-was-actually-camera-equipment

This is the best you've got?

The judge is supposed to rule on this some time today. It would be fun watching these lawyers get clowned for this frivolous, hearsay based bull**** if it wasn't undermining our democratic processes.
 
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