I initially went the archangel stock route, then back to stock, and on a standard 22" barrel, they just felt unwieldy as all hell unless you had time to get into a supported position of some kind. Shooting standing unsupported for any length of time was a bit tedious, and my groups would suffer considerably. I hated the look of the juggernaut initially as well, but now with optics on that don't have to be removed when you split it to clean it combined with how much better it handles, well I think it's the stock that modernizes the m1a to our era. Close, more compact, easier to shoot accurately unsupported, usable for CQB work, without having to sacrifice the ability to reach out and touch somebody. I keep a red dot with a flip to side 7x magnifier, which lends itself to the dual purpose theme quite well. If you have an opportunity to check out or shoot the M1A in this stock, don't pass it up! Function over form!