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  1. #436
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    Hey Chris! Is this still your daily?

    What is the biggest difference you feel when comparing the Rancho to SAS when driving on the street?

    I have been contemplating a SAS but it has to remain street able for my wife to drive, I am not convinced that she'd like driving it after the swap... Any in put would help, thanks!


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    Hey RamRod,

    This isnít my daily anymore. The only reason it isnít is because I have a company car for work with a gas card.

    With that said it was my daily for years after the SAS and I have about 30k on the SAS now so I have plenty of seat time. I drove 750 miles in a day in my h3 with the SAS and 40s so itís still very streetable.

    The one thing thatís probably most different is the steering, the turning radius isnít as great as stock. Iím not sure if you can find a box that is...but itís still light years ahead of the JK turning radius which is horrendous.

    From a ride quality standpoint it rides great. I think the tunability is infinite. You want a stiff ride? Throw F250 coils on it, you want a super soft ride? Throw TJ coils on it...you can really dial in the ride quality you want.
    Squeaky3: 06 H3 ALPHA SAS Hi pinion Dana 44 front/Eaton HO72 rear 5.13 gears, custom crossmember for long arms, lockers, 4:1 T-case, v8 swap, gobi, Smittbilt 12k Custom bumpers....do it all vehicle

    "H3 front axles are like drunk cheerleaders....just use em until they get mouthy...then toss em and get another." -anonymous


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    Bump. Any chance you could post some pics of your half doors? Thinking about doing it soon if I can find a good deal on doors. Also what year are your half doors? Early 06 or updated 2007 model? I think the 07+ model doors would look alot better since you woun't have to cut the into the inner door grab handle like you would with the 06 model.
    2008 Hummer H3 Alpha Adventure + Luxury

    Rancho 4in, 295 Nitto Terras, Road Armor Bumper, Smittybilt 10k, Gobi Stealth, RRO Sliders, Daystar 1" Body Lift, ARB snorkel, Runcool Louver, JKS front disconnects, Coverking Cordura Ballistic Seat Covers, Schwarttzy Skid Plates + Leaf Mounts + Extended Shackles, Outfitter Design Tire Rods, Optima D34, Smittybilt Storage Drawer, Cobra 29 ltd, Dual 102" Whips

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    I ditched the inner door panels. They have a factory cable that you pull the open the doors. The pockets and holes in the door are so useful for storage. I want to do rear doors soon. Iíll find some pics.
    Squeaky3: 06 H3 ALPHA SAS Hi pinion Dana 44 front/Eaton HO72 rear 5.13 gears, custom crossmember for long arms, lockers, 4:1 T-case, v8 swap, gobi, Smittbilt 12k Custom bumpers....do it all vehicle

    "H3 front axles are like drunk cheerleaders....just use em until they get mouthy...then toss em and get another." -anonymous


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    bump for another update. The existing sliders needed work, they hung low, they were prone to bending and I couldn't fully weld them allowing moisture to get in between the frame and slider which would cause rust issues long term. I wanted to do something to get me more clearance and hopefully to stop bending them. So I took the leap to start cutting, I was kind of clueless since I haven't seen another H3 cut out the entire pinch seam so I took my time.

    Squeaky3: 06 H3 ALPHA SAS Hi pinion Dana 44 front/Eaton HO72 rear 5.13 gears, custom crossmember for long arms, lockers, 4:1 T-case, v8 swap, gobi, Smittbilt 12k Custom bumpers....do it all vehicle

    "H3 front axles are like drunk cheerleaders....just use em until they get mouthy...then toss em and get another." -anonymous


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    Down by the pinch seam it was triple or quad walled depending on the location which is truly amazing! Once I cut it all out I was left with a big mess and the potential for distortion of the metal since now its all independent of each other compared to before.



    So I took 18 gauge sheetmetal and connected the body back together.



    This pic is before it was finished but I spot welded all along the body from each wall to create a flat smooth bottom below the body. Then I used that expandable foam stuff to fill the holes and sound deaden along with sealant to seal the gap between the bottom and new sheetmetal to prevent water from intruding. You could feel the additional rigidity in the body after adding that sheetmetal. Before I did I was concerned about distortion. I shortly contemplated making the body and slider one, its popular in the XJ world, but I wanted to keep them isolated and not risk the cracking that could occur from the slider taking hits and forwarding that abuse to the body.



    Used 2x4 .25 wall rectangular tubing



    I used a total of 7 legs. 4 are 1.5x3 .25 wall that then has triangulation with additional .25wall pieces (shown later) then 3 legs are 1.75 .120 wall DOM that tie the B pillar and A pillar of the cage to the frame.





    Here's a pic of the triangulation



    Ideally I would have liked more triangulation and to have it coming from the top but that would have netted less clearance gains, I felt it wasn't worth it and figured this was worth a shot.



    Here's the slider almost done, just missing the 1.75in tube for the a pillar at this point.



    Welded to the frame...with 4x4 3/16 plates to help spread the load...

    I've never seen so much visible frame rail before cutting the pinch seam up 3in!



    The B pillar isn't done yet on the slider mount. I still need to box it and run angle pieces to help transition the rocks going from flat slider to the stub that's out holding the B pillar. You can also see the B pillar is removable. Not ideal for strength but the end goal is to have an internal B pillar. We purposefully had the B pillar sucked as tight as possible to the body and because of that the back door opens about 75%. Fine for the trails but when loading things from the store it can be a pain so being able to take it off for street use is nice and eventually it will get an internal B for additional cage strength.



    For reference these are the old sliders...They sat MUCH lower then before, the plastic crap covered up a lot of the low hanging pinch seam before.



    Now the slider sits much higher...



    So now its time to test it and see if my plan works and its stronger or if its a POS and fails...After the test drive on the road, not additional road noise or body slapping the slider was noticed which is great. Another thing to mention is that the A pillar was brought down lower so visibility is better then it ever has been with the cage. It was ok before but now its almost unnoticeable in terms of lost visibility compared to stock.
    Squeaky3: 06 H3 ALPHA SAS Hi pinion Dana 44 front/Eaton HO72 rear 5.13 gears, custom crossmember for long arms, lockers, 4:1 T-case, v8 swap, gobi, Smittbilt 12k Custom bumpers....do it all vehicle

    "H3 front axles are like drunk cheerleaders....just use em until they get mouthy...then toss em and get another." -anonymous


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  9. #442
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    These were a lot of little things I am happy to improve post UA 2017 since last year it was a mad dash to get finished.
    Squeaky3: 06 H3 ALPHA SAS Hi pinion Dana 44 front/Eaton HO72 rear 5.13 gears, custom crossmember for long arms, lockers, 4:1 T-case, v8 swap, gobi, Smittbilt 12k Custom bumpers....do it all vehicle

    "H3 front axles are like drunk cheerleaders....just use em until they get mouthy...then toss em and get another." -anonymous


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    How do your new neighbors like you working in the driveway? Bet your parents neighbors were glad to see you go.
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    New neighbors have been nice and usually ask ďwhat is that thing?!Ē They know it isnít a Jeep but are unsure of what it is...no complaints from them yet

    Iím not sure what the old neighbors think but Iím sure they are happy!
    Squeaky3: 06 H3 ALPHA SAS Hi pinion Dana 44 front/Eaton HO72 rear 5.13 gears, custom crossmember for long arms, lockers, 4:1 T-case, v8 swap, gobi, Smittbilt 12k Custom bumpers....do it all vehicle

    "H3 front axles are like drunk cheerleaders....just use em until they get mouthy...then toss em and get another." -anonymous


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    "Then I used that expandable foam stuff to fill the holes and sound deaden"
    Be careful with the expanding foam, that stuff will catch fire easily if you are going to weld or plasma cut anywhere near it.
    2006 H3 Adventure & modified Rancho with SOA

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    I think it's good you kept the sliders away from the body. There's so much movement between frame and body in our trucka that isn't present in unibody vehicles.

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    Those slider and mounts look beefy as hell. Great stuffs as usual.

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    2007 H3 Luxury-Adventure Package...NO More CHROME.
    Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar 315/75/16, Wheel Adapters By MotorSport, Odyssey 31M-PC2150ST-M, SAS, Bilstein 7100 series with reservoirs, Pulse-Plugs, AirDoc, K&N Air-Filter, self-rebuilt SS Mega Monster Transmission, ARB Safary Snorkel and Differential breathers , 1" daystar body lift, external trans-cooler, Modded Front Bumper, Mud Inside, Camouflage Paint Job...And A Bunch Of Stickers.


 

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