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Hunner
09-11-2011, 08:24 AM
Trail Rack "Over H3 Spare"
New title. I inserted this in the first post after that I left most of the comments that may answer some questions.
Is there still any interest in these? I still have a list of those interested.

The new skid fabricator saw mine and asked if I wanted any of these made.
Negotiations have begun!
I searched for some made for, what else, Jeeps since they seem to have everything aftermarket.
Depending on size, some Garvin Wilderness racks I saw vary from $346 for a 32 1/2 inch wide to $520 for a 40 in.
This design I will repeat, I got from "Paul" who has written me permission to use his as a basis for a Hunner modded version, of course I have to do my spin on this after some field testing. Why reinvent the wheel. He did a masterful job of design.

It is aprox. 4' by 18" x 4"
shipping is approximately $60 on those Garvin. Not sure if I can do that good. Maybe if I open an account with a shipper.
Shipment is still a problem because of this designs awkward shape. It needs to be partially left apart to ship flat. There would only be two easy welds on each bracket to be made.
I still want to stay away from bolt together because I know this works and that would require more brace brackets and hardware and more testing before I put my name on it.
The basket does bolt to the frame work very securely.
I have to see how the price is to decide on offering them anyway but bare metal. If powder coated, the welds would have to be touched up.
If they hose them down with paint, I'm not sure the quality of that finish.
If I painted I would want to media blast and prime and paint adding to the cost. Size is also a problem for me because of the media cabinet or just lay them out and sand blast, for a fee.
If the skid production run is a success I will pursue this some more if there is still interest this time.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/5x_5587.jpg
Fully loaded
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_4204.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_4205.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3702_resize.jpg
Moab tested/passed no problems
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/5x5324.jpg
Here is mine in my radiant heat paint booth.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3675.jpg
After I bolted it on and without the brace on the spare I hung my 200 lbs on it and it is solid.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3696_resize.jpg
It does not touch the door panel just the same mounts as the spare. As before I had mine cut to ship and should have spent more time grinding this weld but I was of course ready to get it done and mounted.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_2270.jpg

f5moab
09-11-2011, 08:52 AM
If you are going to start making these I will be VERY interested in purchasing one....Put me on the list

08SolarFlareH3
09-11-2011, 09:18 AM
If you are going to start making these I will be VERY interested in purchasing one....Put me on the list
x2, I would be very intrested. Does anyone know if the AMSTAR/Boulder Accessories one was every produced?

JoshuaL
09-11-2011, 09:37 AM
Im definately interested in one. My only concern is that my tire will stick out further than the rack and i think that would look funny. My wheels have a 4.5'' backspace and my tires are 325/65-18 what do you think?

Thanks JoshuaL

I guess we could figure the width and height of your tire and how that backspace compares to a stock rim. I can't recall how much stock is but can check. I thought it was about that much. I also remember something about flipping the spare carrier but I don't remember if that moves it up and how much.You can see from that side shot there is room for more tire. That was 33 and I have a 35 on there now. I need to get a shot of that also.

Hunner
09-11-2011, 09:40 AM
Ok that input of interest helps cause I know the next question the fabricator will ask, how many? Always does. These things take time to get started. I have it figured out that it will need to be made up but left in two pieces to ship in crates flat. It will only require welding the rear bracket to the basket in four places. Otherwise it is way too big to ship without paying even more. That is the way we figured out to ship the one I got which is the original and only one I know of.
I could never get my dealer to come up with an answer on the BA one when those accessories were supposedly only available only thru a dealer. They kept saying the stuff came from Hummer. Maybe they meant AM General but I do not know if that is true. Maybe just a supplier for GM.
Is this the BA? Looks maybe too small for fuel and water cans, maybe a small iceboxa? Only as deep as a spare with cover. What is that saying, something like go big or stay home, ha ha you never have enough room. Great thing about these is it gets that sloshing ice chest out of the cargo area. Wet sleeping bags are not good. I have been warned not to back into anything or lose the window, seems there was story by the designer of the smaller one I have??:wink:
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/BArack.jpg

f5moab
09-11-2011, 10:51 AM
If GM parts designed, either in-house or via an aftermarket supplier, and approved an accessory, they had to follow all federal safety and emission laws, if applicable. Example, the GM brush guard will not affect the supplemental inflatable restraint system (air bags), approved intake or exhaust accessories cannot affect emission compliance, rocker panel protector cannot affect the side air curtain sensors, etc. Therefore, in some regard, GM service parts accessories were limited. Whereas, aftermarket suppliers did not have to follow all the same requirements. I'm pretty sure that my winch will affect the dual stage airbag system if I hit something. (Default is stage two so I'll get a broken nose vs. a bruised nose.:whaa:)

Someone else (was it CB Photo?) had a smaller rack, similar to your larger rack, but not like the tiny rack shown above.

Run a poll, get some early results without a price, then once a price is determined, start taking orders. Right now many will say they want it, but if the price is too high, the Yes I want one will drop.

For me, I don't want to spend as much for one of these as I would a Gobi rack, but I am starting to run out of room on my roof rack (I keep adding camp supplies), and admittedly, a Gobi would give me more room; especially since I seldom use my sun roof. But then again, I can't keep adding and adding to the roof before I compromise the max weight of the roof. So, something like this is the next best thing. Just getting my cooler and water off the roof would be a major improvement.

Ron B
09-11-2011, 11:18 AM
if this one isn't made, can the jeep one (like the one from Rock Hard 4x4) be modified to work?

f5moab
09-11-2011, 11:26 AM
With metal and a welder, anything could be modified to fit. :) But, I have not heard of anyone trying to modify one.

f5moab
09-11-2011, 11:30 AM
Hunner...
I see in the top photo you have a support running from the center outside of the rack, down to the lower nut on the spare tire carrier. However, it is not shown in the other photos. I like this idea of added support, but would it interfere with the removal of the spare tire?

JoshuaL
09-11-2011, 12:58 PM
hey Hunner i measured how far my tire sticks out by measuring off the back glass. Its about 18'' from the glass to the out side off the tire. If you don't care could you measure from the glass to the out side of the rack?
765

Thanks JoshuaL

Hunner
09-11-2011, 01:34 PM
hey Hunner i measured how far my tire sticks out by measuring off the back glass. Its about 18'' from the glass to the out side off the tire. If you don't care could you measure from the glass to the out side of the rack?
765

Thanks JoshuaL

Of course I don't care, it's my job. That and being retired.
Would you believe 20"?

Hunner
09-11-2011, 01:51 PM
Hunner...
I see in the top photo you have a support running from the center outside of the rack, down to the lower nut on the spare tire carrier. However, it is not shown in the other photos. I like this idea of added support, but would it interfere with the removal of the spare tire?

I closed the door a few times on the big one without one and it had just a little recoil movement. Not much but enough I wanted a brace. It has a bolt at the top and uses one of the lug nuts to mount the bottom end. Ya gots to take that off anyway to change a tire and then the bolt at the top. I use the wheel lock on my spare and this just adds some time a thief would have to consider. This rack is engineered very well. It would haul a deer or elk, you know if one ran out in front of you. (probably not rated for a Prius) Maybe even a Roo! I think it is very solid and has been loaded on several trips. Hinges are still tight and latch is holding up. You can just see under it enough to see the hood or roof of a small car. Side mirrors work though.

08SolarFlareH3
09-11-2011, 02:41 PM
I have it figured out that it will need to be made up but left in two pieces to ship in crates flat. It will only require welding the rear bracket to the basket in four places. Otherwise it is way too big to ship without paying even more. That is the way we figured out to ship the one I got which is the original and only one I know of.
May I make a suggestion? How about making it a 2 or 3 piece bolt together unit? I have access to a welder but not everyone does. Set up right a bolt together rack can be just as or at least almost as strong as a welded unit and plenty strong enough for this. I guess if it came in pieces and the average Joe could bolt it together and slap it on, would be a huge bonus IMHO. Its fine if you want to leave the finish raw, because anyone can spray a coat of paint or rattle can bedliner but maybe even consider offering a powder coated unit for a finished product look. Just a couple of suggestions.

Hunner
09-11-2011, 04:17 PM
The way this is presently designed where the angled brackets are tied in is what gives it the strength it needs. I would have to design some flanges of some sort. Right where the welds are a bolted bracket in my opinion would have leverage on it and would work like a hinge. I just feel the solid construction for an offroad use rack needs to be so nothing can work loose.
The welds are short and could be done at a muffler shop or general welding shop fairly cheap.
I have not had much favorable experience with powder coating items with lots of edges and angles. When it gets messed up what are you going to do, probably rattle can touch up. I will probably sand blast them, use Tractor Supply implement enamel primer and a color coat and add the hardener to that. Theeen rattle can will be needed to touch up. I did mine that way after I got it and so far it still looks great even after the salt water showerbath on High Island Texas Hwy 90.
Keep suggestions coming and I will consider all of them after all the point is to get something out there specific to an H3.
Here is mine in my radiant heat paint booth.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3675.jpg
After I bolted it on and without the brace on the spare I hung my 200 lbs on it and it is solid.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3696_resize.jpg
I did forget to weigh it and I cannot find the shipping ticket but it has some mass to it. I will have to build crates for the two pieces or do a lot of traveling to deliver. We will see as this progresses.

f5moab
09-11-2011, 06:04 PM
Ok, more questions....
What's on the inside of the frame where it mates to the door? Is there a rubber coating or blocks to prevent scratches and obscene rubbing noises? I bet there is some flexing when on a gnarly road.

Bigunit
09-11-2011, 06:25 PM
Hunner,
Damm, I love that rack! I saved pics of your Jamboree Rack way back when you first posted pics of it on some other forum and figured I'd have to have it fabbed by someone locally some day. Always hoped that i'd have a chance to get a Hunner-made original instead! Now it looks like that might happen.

I don't drive an H3, but I already know that I'm going to get one of those when you make them to put on either my wife's H3 or on my future "Project H3". thanks Hunner. :cheers:

Hunner
09-11-2011, 06:34 PM
F5 and all;
To mount this you remove the spare metal mounting bracket. Then you bolt the rack to the reinforced door. Then mount the spare carrier to that. It clears the body of the door by 1/2 inch at the halfway point and is further away up and down because of the door profile. Missed it by that much.....Not a peep! has never touched the paint.

I was trying to find in Larry Edsall's book on Hummer H3's where he mentions beefing up the hinges for the door it was interesting. I will search.
Ahh found it "The engineering team went through an incredible monumental job" says H3 chief designer Jon Albert. "When you open that swing gate now, those hinges look like they could hold a 16-foot farm fence"
I guess he meant gate? Anywho I have not ripped them off yet, but I drive like an old man.
ps I guess I should have ground on that weld a bit more. Old dry eyes. That is one of the places I was talking about to leave undone so it will lay flat in a box.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_2270.jpg

f5moab
09-11-2011, 07:34 PM
Hinges are very beefy. I'm surprised there is not more movement in the rack. Guess if you make these I'll have to reinstall my CB antenna. Was thinking of a short two footer to the top rear of the luggage rack anyway.

Hunner
09-11-2011, 08:12 PM
If I again get the go ahead from the designer, I want to confirm how we handle it. I will have to work with the fabricator and get a price and time line.
I will keep it posted when I hear back.

f5moab
09-11-2011, 09:21 PM
Stop farting around on the forum and get going on this rack.:giggle: If I go to TN in NOV, I want to swing throug and get it installed.:thumbs:

3Hummers
09-11-2011, 10:07 PM
This is a very cool rack and I have seen it carry quite a it of weight. A great mod and one people should jump on if Hunner does a run of them.

Hunner
09-13-2011, 06:31 PM
I got the rights to use the original rack design from the designer for a base starting point, thanks Paul.
I spent two hours at the fab shop going over things. He is having a place that can laser cut tubing and cut the holes and location tabs for the welders and this might save some assembly time. They are using a welding jig for the other project and it works great. I love this stuff. He also said maybe with some fabricated brackets at the assembly points it could be bolted. I wanted reinforcing at those points and several bolts. Nothing is decided yet. If the interest keeps up on here I may shoot for 10 so it will be a worthwhile effort for both of us.
We looked at some new textured powder coating that was really nice on some irregular pieces he had. I asked if it was UV resistant. Gotta check on that.
So the ideas are churning. I want to ship UPS. Truck on some items he had about the same size is high.

One piece laying there was OD Green and was about 3 foot square with lasered holes all over it. He said guess what that is. Whew, I dunno looks like a platform. It was for working on Hummvees at the arsenal. I guess to hold a tech over the radiator stack so he can get to the engine. The other part of it was not there.

JoshuaL
09-13-2011, 06:41 PM
Hay Hunner you said that you sandwich the rack between the spare carrier and the door. So how far is the carrier off the door because that will add to how far my tire sits out.

Thanks JoshuaL

Hunner
09-13-2011, 10:08 PM
Good question. It moves it out 2 1/2 inches.

M22KLARS
09-13-2011, 10:10 PM
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3675.jpg
After I bolted it on and without the brace on the spare I hung my 200 lbs on it and it is solid.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3696_resize.jpg
I did forget to weigh it and I cannot find the shipping ticket but it has some mass to it. I will have to build crates for the two pieces or do a lot of traveling to deliver. We will see as this progresses.

This would not work with a Gobi ladder.

Hunner
09-13-2011, 10:28 PM
Well then there is a decision to make for some people. I personally just open the back door and stand up to reach an item on my rack or open a side door and step back on top of the tire from there. It's always sumpthin!:)
I use this rack more than I do the top rack for most daily trips but I like both. I will be hauling a second spare on most long trips and I just take it down from the side. I place it at the front of my rack for weight distribution and so I can reach the lighter weight camping gear in a water resistant bag at the back. I can't lift a 35 inch tire on a Hutchinson rim and go down a ladder but I can slide it off the side and try to do a controlled drop!
This old standard picture is how mine looks loaded.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/8707sh_resize.jpg

M22KLARS
09-13-2011, 10:30 PM
Don't get me wrong I LOVE the spare rack. I would love to have one. Just not sure if I could give up my ladder. I've done my time climbing up the spare and it's not as fun as it sounds. :) Too bad there isn't a way to integrate the two. Or maybe there is.... Custom ladder coming off the rack?

Ron B
09-13-2011, 10:32 PM
One piece laying there was OD Green and was about 3 foot square with lasered holes all over it. He said guess what that is. Whew, I dunno looks like a platform. It was for working on Hummvees at the arsenal. I guess to hold a tech over the radiator stack so he can get to the engine. The other part of it was not there.

I'll take one of those!! Always wanted to make one but never got around to it.

Hunner
09-13-2011, 10:40 PM
I'm not sure what the rest of it looked like to support it. That does sound like it would be nice. It might make a nice deer stand.

Hunner
09-13-2011, 10:44 PM
Don't get me wrong I LOVE the spare rack. I would love to have one. Just not sure if I could give up my ladder. I've done my time climbing up the spare and it's not as fun as it sounds. :) Too bad there isn't a way to integrate the two. Or maybe there is.... Custom ladder coming off the rack?

I get your concern. The rack already hits about 50 lbs. I sure don't need anymore weight on my rig.
This guy has a huge building full of huge machines and can do anything when he is interested.
He has been wanting a Toyota FJ but today he was studying my H3 while looking at the rack. I may have to find him a 2010 Alpha, then he would be easy to get motivated.

M22KLARS
09-13-2011, 10:49 PM
Yeah at 50 lbs.... we could probably do without the ladder. :)

Hunner
09-13-2011, 10:54 PM
We may use the mount support and lighten the basket. Then F5 can test it for us! Maybe load it up with some of Neo's bundles? If I can get him to do the prototype in house we can make just that one and then do lots of photographs to share and get more ideas before a production run and see how it is accepted.

M22KLARS
09-13-2011, 10:59 PM
Sounds great. I'm seriously interested!

Hunner
09-14-2011, 12:04 PM
May I make a suggestion? How about making it a 2 or 3 piece bolt together unit? I have access to a welder but not everyone does. Set up right a bolt together rack can be just as or at least almost as strong as a welded unit and plenty strong enough for this. I guess if it came in pieces and the average Joe could bolt it together and slap it on, would be a huge bonus IMHO. Its fine if you want to leave the finish raw, because anyone can spray a coat of paint or rattle can bedliner but maybe even consider offering a powder coated unit for a finished product look. Just a couple of suggestions.


To revisit this, the original designer had considered the bolt together but had the same concerns I had about that being a weak point. I asked the fab guy about making a surround two piece bracket that would over lap enough to put two bolts at each end. The issue of powder coating would be if it was done while apart there would be a problem with the welding. If coated apart and then bolted together it might hold up. Either way some touch up might have to be done. The new process powder coating he has done by an outside company across town looks to be the best I have seen. Usually things I have seen done the stuff peels off of sharp edges.
It this bolt up design is tried I would be starting over because I have not tested that. We are set to do some re-engineering but keep the basic overall design.
stay tuned.

08SolarFlareH3
09-14-2011, 02:48 PM
Found these while looking through my saved photos for 06H3........
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p275/dropped99silverado/modified-2008-hummer-h3-alpha-at-hell-revenge-off-road-trail-united-states.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p275/dropped99silverado/modified-hummer-h3-alpha-on-hell-revenge-at-2008-easter-jeep-safari-in-moab-ut.jpg
Here are the same pictures just cropped
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p275/dropped99silverado/modified-2008-hummer-h3-alpha-at-hell-revenge-off-road-trail-united-states-zoom.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p275/dropped99silverado/modified-hummer-h3-alpha-on-hell-revenge-at-2008-easter-jeep-safari-in-moab-ut-zoom.jpg

Hunner
09-14-2011, 03:36 PM
That is interesting. Shots of that H3 with the Rancho and spring over in the rear have been around on several forums. I consolidated the ones I had saved and lightened them and sharpened them the best I could with what was there, and posted them in a lifts and spring over thread. I found out the ones I had were shot in town but they were all UNDER the vehicle. I was told Speedy and Sewie shot some of those.
These are the first I have seen the whole vehicle. I did look closer at that rack. Maybe if GM would have left those guys at the Proving grounds alone they would have come out with the MOAB edition and some other great stuff.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/modified-hummer-h3-alpha-on-hell-revenge-at-2008-easter-jeep-safari-in-moab-ut-zoom.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/modified-2008-hummer-h3-alpha-at-hell-revenge-off-road-trail-united-states-zoom.jpg

06 H3
09-14-2011, 04:25 PM
That is a nice rack. I want one but my damn ladder is in the way. I wish GM left em alone. I mean we wanted an H3 v8 we got one. they made a moab edition for more clearance. We wanted a front locker we got one. And so on. A company actually listened to its buyers who knows what could have been done to the front end in future models but all that is gone....

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Hunner
09-19-2011, 03:04 PM
Just got a call from the fabrication shop. He is working on the over spare or Jamboree rack design. We have come up with some ideas so that it can be produced with his forming equipment. It is still possible we may use an outside plant with a laser tubing cutter to form the bends. A clamp of sorts to fit at the breakdown point so it can be double bolted and have strength. Possibly forming the basket frame rather than the square tubing to save labor and costs.
Talked about replacing the expanded metal basket bottom. We both agree that stuff has lots of sharp edges and all have to be welded to the frame to prevent finger biters. That stuff also does not hold paint well and wastes a lot. Looking into replacing that with a flat sheet with laser slots or holes so water will not stand on it.
So things are busy around the Hunner EXtreme Hummer Hut and Skunk Works.
More news in the skid section.

f5moab
09-19-2011, 05:55 PM
What about building it like a roof cargo basket?

BW_Hummer H3
09-19-2011, 06:04 PM
Wow, the rack is a great idea!:thumbs:

Bigunit
09-19-2011, 07:30 PM
Hunner,
Now that Cotilo and I have a new "baby" on the way, I now have a need and place for one of those Jamboree racks from the Hunner EXtreme Hummer Hut and Skunk Works! :hans:

f5moab
09-19-2011, 08:25 PM
Hunner,
Now that Cotilo and I have a new "baby" on the way, I now have a need and place for one of those Jamboree racks from the Hunner EXtreme Hummer Hut and Skunk Works! :hans:

I believe it would be illegal to mount a child seat in the Jamboree rack.:giggle:

Hunner
09-19-2011, 09:21 PM
I kind of had a mental picture of that rig they used in Daktari with the Duke and Red Buttons chasing down game in Africa. You would have to get the kid some goggles at least!
I will put you down as a possible BigUnit if you still have time to wheel. lol

Bigunit
09-19-2011, 09:50 PM
Great point of reference Hunner but "Hatari" was the movie with the Duke & Red Buutons! Daktari was the TV series with aniaml vet & the lion named Clarence. :)

WOW! That's going back to my childhood! I didn't think I had any brain cells left for that one but I guess I still do! The doctors are right - wine does make your mind sharper & helps you live longer!!! :thumbs:

Hunner
09-19-2011, 10:53 PM
Well I was close, I am to the point my internal hard drive is a bit fragmented! Either way both were in Black and White when I first saw them!
I was going to add goggles like they wore on Rat Patrol but was afraid that would really let out how old I was.
I hear beer only kills the weak brain cells and new ones grow, so you could maybe get smarter drinking beer?

DJinCO
09-19-2011, 11:42 PM
Hunner, How do you keep the back end from sagging with the weight on the roof and back? I have one of the receiver hitch racks and loaded it with about 100# and it dropped the back end about an inch and a half. Thanks!

Hunner
09-20-2011, 12:18 AM
I travel a little heavy when outfitted for long trips, (expedition sounds cooler) I constantly struggle with what to leave behind. Maybe the Alpha has stiffer springs? In your case I think the leverage farther out there is your enemy! The spare rack is tucked in closer and I can wheel with it on there.
I was looking at those suggestions for travel in Colorado and if I can work it out I am thinking of coming out that way, just not sure when yet. I did not get to see enough last time.

DJinCO
09-20-2011, 12:21 AM
It would be great to see you out here. Come out soon, wait too long in October and there will be snow. Fairplay has already had a couple of flurries; just a matter of time now.

Hunner
09-20-2011, 01:04 AM
I don't mind some snow, I drive a Hummer H3!
By the way I have two set of high speed snow chains like State Troopers use, I bought for my first trip out that way but they are for 285 tires. I used one set around here one day just to see how they work when we had refrozen snow and ice. Drove to the post office and back 10 miles.
You need some?
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/e8x64493.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DSC_8577.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DSC_8578.jpg

DJinCO
09-20-2011, 10:33 PM
Hunner, I expect that with your chains you would be pretty much unstoppable; especially if it is slushy snow that would pack into the tire treads.

Hunner
09-20-2011, 10:50 PM
I tried just the fronts so I could steer the front end. I would like to try them at both ends. What we had here was re-frozen snow and ice on top of that. It really did well.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_4477.jpg

Bigunit
09-20-2011, 11:11 PM
Damn Hunner! I love your rig!!!

Hunner
09-20-2011, 11:59 PM
Thanks, these things are great aren't they? I think GM screwed up. We are going to have to make them what we want going forward. I can honestly say I have had the most fun with my H3 of anything I have owned. I have put a lot of my ideas into this vehicle and really like the results. That is why I like to share what works so others can try those mods. Now I just need to get on the road again........wait I have that CD:shifty:

JoshuaL
10-01-2011, 08:09 PM
Hey Hunner I was wondering how the rack is coming along. I didn't know if you have come up with a price yet so I can start saving.

Hunner
10-01-2011, 08:19 PM
Good question. I know he was working on configuring the prototype to work on his equipment and was having some other place do the parts for the basket. I hope to hear something by midweek about how all the parts are coming along. I will get a one off and see what he came up with. Stay tuned.
If I get one late next week I may have to make a road test, and uh test it. I don't want to get too excited though he had a lot going on.
I am supposed to get the steering rack sleeve/bushings about Wed. That will keep me busy while I wait.

JoshuaL
10-15-2011, 01:06 PM
Hunner have you got to do a off/road test?:corn: I know know I'm getting impatient

JoshuaL

Hunner
10-15-2011, 01:58 PM
I have not heard from him. I better go up and socialize and look dejected. He was trying to set up a method to save cost on assembly last I heard. I have to talk to him about rock rings again so I will go Monday and see if he has time. You know how Monday's can be?

Hunner
12-01-2011, 01:46 PM
Back to the rack. I went to the fab shop and asked where the H my project went. Just kidding, I was very diplomatic. He has had two large contracts to work on and I understand he is going for the big ticket stuff. He did have the info all layed out about getting the tubing indexed on cnc lasers and said he just has not had time to put the pencil to it. Do people still use pencils. Sorry but I will keep on this. I'm still uncertain of the market for these but maybe 10 would sell from the feedback I have.

08SolarFlareH3
12-01-2011, 02:31 PM
I would be very interested in one Hunner, would love to see the new version.

AbsntMnded
12-01-2011, 05:24 PM
I am also very interested. I searched high and low for something similar before my "expedition" to Wyoming. No luck.

cgalpha08
12-01-2011, 05:31 PM
Im interested!!

Hunner
12-01-2011, 05:37 PM
I just got back from up there and built a fire under him. This time of year hopefully things will get to the point he will find the time to keep some guys busy on our "custom" projects if they get things cleared out.
Check out the FJ bumper thread.
When he gets a break I am taking my H3 up there and see what we come up with. I can drive into the huge shop right next to all the equipment.

Hunner
01-16-2012, 06:50 AM
I have not given up on this yet. I have a meeting with him this week hopefully and work on a couple of other ideas at that time. Lots of delays for my little job. I'm holding off ordering skids until he gets on this

DJinCO
01-16-2012, 04:45 PM
Hunner,

The products that you provide us exceede the expectations and are built for heavy duty use. I sure would be interested in one of these racks also. Especially for the large and cumberson items like a cooler.

Please keep us informed!

Thanks, Doug

Hunner
01-16-2012, 05:24 PM
It's frustrating because I thought by now I would at least had a prototype. His production runs of large volumes of course come first. He is doing this as a sideline and interest in offroad vehicles. I like to get things done and have spent a lot of time prototyping other things that I thought we were going to knock out.
The capacity of this place is awesome, something a small fabricator could not do without lots of man hours. Once we get going hopefully some other things will happen.
ucp shhh

CBphoto
02-12-2012, 11:07 PM
Ever do anything with this Dave? I think I only welded up two of them, and you got one in a barter! Not an easy fab, doesn't ship well, hard to make it it less pieces. Paul's design was far superior to mine (more like the one in your first pics), but I'm not sure how many units would really move.

And ya....don't back into a tree with that thing on...it pops the rear window in really quick. :)

CB

Hunner
02-13-2012, 01:02 AM
I have been trying to get some made. I had enough interest to risk it. They guy was working on getting another place that can cut the pieces for the basket part and have them tabbed with inserts to assemble it then just weld the joints. Then he was going to laser cut the pieces and have it bolt together for shipping.
The one I got from Paul I had him cut it in two places and ship in a plywood box.
I'm going up there Monday, weather permitting cause if may snow and then as usual in Arkansas ice and drizzle freezing on that. I need to check my skid order and this and was going to work on the UCP, but if your getting that done I will pass on that style we have discussed. You get to ship them!! ha ha

Hunner
09-09-2012, 04:33 PM
Trail Rack "Over H3 Spare" new title
Bump updated first post in this thread.

Hunner
09-11-2012, 12:30 AM
Huh?

Hunner
09-27-2012, 11:49 PM
Well at one time I had 10 people wanting these but I guess the traveling has been cut back in this great economy.

Bigunit
09-28-2012, 09:02 AM
Still interested in one. Any ETA? :corn:

Hunner
09-28-2012, 10:07 AM
No, I sort of was waiting on this new place to make the damn skids. They are just swamped and are really nice about NOT doing them. I don't want to burn any bridges with them at this point mainly because they were the only ones that said they would make some of those racks. They of course said more was better and I did not get any responses so sort of eased off of it.
I will get them to make one after the skids and see how they do.
Thanks for asking

Hunner
07-18-2013, 11:27 AM
Obviously this project got shelved so I just loaded mine up and went wheeling.

06 H3
07-18-2013, 03:31 PM
I just looked at this, I have like 50 feet of the same exact size square tubing. I may look into making one but want to keep weight down. How much does it weigh? As I tackle tougher and tougher trails I realize the weight you ditch the better and not sure if its worth the weight. Only thing I wouldnt be able to do is throw in the bend like they did. I can either make the corners at 45 degree angles or 22.5 degree angles but not at a bend like the one you have.

Gunner_45
07-18-2013, 03:58 PM
If I had any sort of fab skills other than paint and hammer (beat it to fit, then paint it to match),
I’d try to just make a frame/bracket assembly of some sort and put one if these light weight trays
on it from Bestop. I’m sure there are even cheaper options out there for the tray part.


http://www.quadratec.com/Assets/Images/36113/36113-lg.jpg

Measures 43" x 23" x 4"

Same could be done for the inside cargo area….Frame that could bolt in using the cargo tie down bolts,
High enough to slide coolers and action packers under, then have room on top for light bulky stuff like
sleeping bags, food and such ****…..covered by a Safari Straps net of course.


(sorry, just some random redneck engineering thoughts I needed to get out of my head...I'll shut up now)


:)

Hunner
07-19-2013, 05:57 PM
I just posted that last after including a link to this from the thread someone was starting from scratch about the rack.

I once mentioned the frame is the key to this. It makes the thing work and does not damage the vehicle.
I think a good quality basket for a hitch unit could be used and already made, mounted to the frame.

I think by now most of you have figured out that I set up my H3 for specific types of trips and most include taking "luxury items" when just camping and exploring.
Hard core wheeling you could remove this or just not load it up. I did however try it in Moab and the extra weight may or may not have been an issue where I hung up a couple of times. However in one instance a spring over with 35's did not climb a wall when another stock H3 just went right up. I think in a lot of cases it's the line or just bad Ju Ju that day. Even multiple attempts some days just does not work.
That same place my heavy loaded H3 did not make it in a couple of attempts and after I had waited over an hour while others bashed the obstacle I chose the strap to save my vehicle from repeated bashing into the rocks and lived to die another day.
I'm always interested in people coming up with different ideas on this and those with skills should be able to accomplish it. I just want to give out info to help in the project from my experience.