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Hunner
09-11-2011, 07:15 AM
welcome
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3723_resize-1.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3728_resize.jpg
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Hunner
09-11-2011, 08:17 AM
ANNOUNCEMENTS

Fabrication begins tomorrow on 10 sets. I checked today and they are on the schedule for the laser in the morning, forming in the afternoon but will get backed up in welding for a day or so. Maybe next week. yaaaa

Hunner
09-13-2011, 11:45 PM
I thought this might be useful,
Ok, here goes. Hunner EXtreme skids install. If you do not have the right stuff get some help and share jacks. This is not hard just print this out and go step by step. A warm dry place with good light helps. I use rubber mats instead of a creeper because of my belly, no wait, because I have more room to move around.
I like to jack up one side at a time, and I only have two jacks. I use the front spring hanger to place a floor jack under. Then I put a jackstand on the frame outside of that and put some weight on it. (I did not use it fully extended like in the picture. I lowered it and the jack part way to use both to hold it up) Then I put another one under the rear axle over closer to the wheel but just outside of where the skid is going. Now I feel sort of safe. A helper is nice if you can find one. Just as a safety and hand you things. I was not that fortunate because Im impatient.
I like to pull the wheel so I can see better. It needs to be jacked up high enough that the tire is off the ground so the springs have drooped as far as they will. Exception, the rear shock is holding the axle up by 3/4 inch. I have read where people contrive all kinds of straps and such to hold the shock up. You don't need to do that. If you use an impact, air or electric (my compressor motor fried right in the middle of this) I grabbed the electric. Use 13/16 socket and box end. I hold the nut with the box end but keep your hands away and impact the bolt head. If you do it this way the impact will screw the bolt right out as the spring and shock come down 3/4 inch more. You could be fancy and place the other jack under there and adust it 3/4 inch.
Remove the spring shackle bolts and washers. I reused the washers because some engineer thought they were needed. I sort of criscross loosening them so the nuts come off even. The shock will be hanging. Install the skid against that bottom spring plate. It should be a glove fit. Be patient "rule one" (do what I say, not what I do)

If you just gotta bang on something use a rubber coated mallet! It's a bit tricky balancing the loose washer on the nut which has a made on washer with one finger and using the other hand to get the threads started. You may now know the other reason why the hole size is slightly larger than a heavy wall 1/2 drive black impact socket for wiggle room and washing and draining. Got Mud?
Plus the elongated holes in the back bracket. There is a small nut on the bolt that holds the leaf pack together make sure it aligns with the hole in the center hole in the lower spring plate. Also watch that the upper part of the hangers are flush against the stops on the axle so they are straight down. At this point you might feel like a beer but I suggest you wait. "see rule one"
I have another smaller jack that I run up under the skid. A few pumps and the bottom eye in the shock lines up. You can remove that jack and tighten the spring bolts, again evenly in a criscross pattern. You want the same amount of thread showing on all of them to center things up. Finally either really put some grunt on a long breakover handle or read the torque chart posted to be sure.
Have a be.. oh wait (see rule one), you have to put on the wheel let the jack down and go to the other side.
Now that was not bad was it? Go wheelin smash a Priu.. uh rock.
Ok while I had everything apart I thought about when I pull the center caps to wheel really rough stuff or just long distance on unimproved roads. I hate that rusted center. Too tired to cut a template I just primed and shot it with red paint. Well surprise I got red tipped lug studs too. We havin some fun now.
If anybody sees any glaring mistakes point them out. I don't know everything, don't claim to, but I know enough to be dangerous.
Remember Hunner online help is here for you. I speak southern Arkansas dialect but I type ok English, sort of!
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/6xTorqueSpecs-1.jpg
Don't fully extend a jack stand like this. I had to find a better spot.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3715_resize.jpg
this jack stand is only there as a safety the axle should be at full droop to extend the shock
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3716_resize.jpg
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http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3862.jpg

Hunner
09-13-2011, 11:47 PM
For those interested this is from a previous batch;
Laser
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3652_resize.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3665_resize.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3673.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3670_resize.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3671_resize.jpg
Master smasher
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3661_resize.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3681_resize.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3679_resize.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3678_resize.jpg
Welding
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3704_resize.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3706_resize.jpg
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Hunner
09-13-2011, 11:49 PM
Until I figure out my mod abilities I will save one more page in order:)

Hunner
09-19-2011, 03:05 PM
10 sets by this Thursday if all goes well.........

Hunner
09-20-2011, 05:42 PM
Got the call. 10 sets of skids are ready but too late to get them today. I will have them in the morning ready to blast and ship. Let me know if you need them. I will fill pre-orders first.
Still $165 all four pieces shipped.

Hunner
09-21-2011, 05:14 PM
Picked up the new skids today. They start the bend back about 1 1/2 to clear shocks with larger mounting eyes like the Bilstein. That also makes the bend a little layed back more and more below the springs.
It's a small batch but I wanted to keep some around for new people that might want them.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_2335.jpg
The new style is on the left.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_2332.jpg
Here is the new style in the foreground showing the change in angle and starting a little further back.
I am running a set of the original style on my 08 Alpha and that will work but this allows them to go up just a little higher at the back. I don't plan on changing mine out just for fun!
Always looking of ways to keep up with the use of new products on the H3.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_2333.jpg
contact me if you are interested.

Hunner
09-28-2011, 09:01 PM
I still have 6 full sets if anybody needs them for Fall wheelin.

SWANK3T
09-30-2011, 07:57 PM
I may need another set let you know tomorrow ;)

Hunner
11-02-2011, 05:39 PM
Just a bump to keep these out there. I still have a few sets left.

Hunner
11-22-2011, 06:56 PM
SOLD
OK I'm gettin all these Black Friday specials on computer components since I got cookies from all the sites while building the guts to update my computer.
I will get in on this,
HUNNER EXtreme skids BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
I got one full set left of the skids that had the standard bend at the rear on the rear skid. Please look up in the post showing the difference. I have sold lots of these but now that some people are going to rear Bilstein or any other shock with a bigger lower eye the new ones I have now are as in the posts above to allow more room. I still run the last style as seen in my posts with the Bilstein. I figured out the bigger eye when I replaced my shocks. They work but will not go up all the way flush at the back. Maybe a 1/4 inch lower at the rear. I don't want to having to keep telling people about these and don't want to send them out without doing that.
So if you can handle knowing that they fit OEM shocks or a similiar sized replacement, I will sell this set and knock off the $18.00 shipping. Total shipped all four pieces $147.00 American.
Happy Turkey Day, go wheeling instead of sittin on the couch with a big ole belly!

Expendable
11-23-2011, 01:57 AM
that's some awesome fabrication! looks great! :thumbs:

AlaskaDan
11-23-2011, 02:14 AM
YES, bought by me.
Now after I get some rock sliders on, I can follow all you "ROCK DOGS".
Actually, I am going to make (weld) a set of my own.

Hunner
11-27-2011, 02:17 PM
I talked with "albh3t" in Attica about his concern that the front spring hanger skids are a bit close using the Rancho springs. I suggested using a thin blade grinder and trim them.
Then "gldn Eagle" wanted a set and he runs a Rancho on a T. I replied to him.
I think there are at least 3 people with H3's and 1 or 2 with H3T's with the skids that have the lift. I can ask that in my skid thread and see what they all think. I am in Arkansas and just drove up to Attica Indiana to the BadLands offroad park to meet about 15 Hummers. One guy had the rancho on a T and we thought the way the Rancho springs sit that the skid for the front hanger might could be cut off an inch or so to give more clearance at full droop. That was with the old style before I angled it back more. We discussed using a thin blade right angle grinder to do so. This stuff is really hard and a sawzall eats up about three blades to do that, I tried it.I would be willing to cut and shape a set for you and you hold it up there at rest and jacked up at full droop before welding and see what you think. Shoot me some pictures both ways and I will post them on my sponsor threads to show what we did. I would not want the spring to hit that skid. I designed it for stock but when people started running disconnected anti-sway bars back there I had to slope them more. There will not be any extra charge. I want you to be happy with them and this will be a good chance to see if I need to change them for Rancho setups.The steering sleeve/bushing is the same for both vehicles. I can stick you in a set to ship with the skids and both will be a total of $200 shipped USPS flat rate 3 day priority mail. ThanksDave Hunter aka HunnerPaypal 1secondwind@comcast.netBe sure to include your forum name in the comments box so I can tell who you are! ha ha

So here is a set with the new increased angle back which makes a shorter distance to the lower spring, BUT I cut 1 inch off and reshaped it. If he will post up some pictures of how this looks with his Rancho springs and it seems to solve the issue and allow more clearance I may just have them all made that way in the next batch as I have seen others with the OEM springs think it needs more room. At some point though it will defeat the purpose of making a skid for that area if you hang up backing into a rock to get that better line. Just another MORPH of the product, trying to keep up with all the mods people are making, like disconnecting the anti-sway bar. Pulling the springs to install Rancho springs or to have your OEM re-arched is still a concern as I have not actually done that. I thought with my original design there was enough room to lift and pull out the front end of the spring. I will know someday because I will probably need to do that.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3179.jpg

Hunner
11-29-2011, 08:21 PM
Just a note;
I have 2 full sets of skids left from the last batch and some steering rack sleeve/bushings.
Set of skids still $165 shipped on this batch. The sleeve/bushing is $40 shipped or
when bought and shipped together are $200 shipped for both.
Not sure what price they will hit me up for next time, probably next year now.:huh:

CNY750Rider
01-09-2012, 07:04 PM
Bump

woohoo, just picked up a full set!! Thanks Hunner!

Hunner
01-09-2012, 07:41 PM
I will blast them and ship Tuesday. USPS priority mail 3 days.
Thanks

Hunner
01-28-2012, 12:04 PM
Sorry those last two went fast. I will get another batch as soon as I can. Hopefully in a couple of weeks. Depends on the schedule at the shop. So I will start a list for those wanting them. Please help give me an idea of how many to get by signing up. I can keep costs down by the number I have them make at one time.
Thanks

Cddutt
backwoods

Hunner
01-31-2012, 04:31 PM
I will order 15 sets but I am still thinking about the front ones. I started out with a tight bend against the mount but had to cut them off an inch after they were made. Don't want to have to do that.
Next batch I angled it back more. That also increased the distance between them and the springs.
A very few people were concerned about not being able to remove the springs with them in place. I had it figured you could but of course have not tried that.
So this last batch I angled it even more to get more clearance.
The problem being they say they cannot make it an inch shorter on the bent up part and fit it in the press.
Alrock had someone taper and cut the bent up part shorter. Not sure I like the taper unless it still covers both ends of the mounting bolt.
Then people with a Rancho set up apparently got the springs out. I did not get it clear if any removed the front skid to do so.
I have gotten some feedback that with the Rancho springs sagging and/or with a lower arch that maybe an inch needs to be cut off. I did that for a couple of people but I don't have any pictures of the outcome.
Anybody that can get me some pictures or details on what you have done let me know. I want to get this on order soon and want to tweak them if possible.
For now if I stay with the last design, people that install a Rancho set of springs can just trim off an inch as far as I know.
I will go back thru some post and put out more feelers to add to my info.
Thanks
mine before skids
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/_DSC2862_resize.jpg
protype
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/_DSC3569_resize-1.jpg
cut some off don't even try the sawzall you need a thin blade grinding disc
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/_DSC6859.jpg
mounted on my damaged mount and custom contoured after one trip to Superlift
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/_DSC6804.jpg
Mounted on the Alpha
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_0966.jpg
Old and second generation
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3690_resize.jpg
second gen held in place
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3714_resize.jpg
Welded
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3862.jpg
Can't remember but I think Alrock first had these installed in Moab and the Jeep place that did it thought they should be cut off more in the back. I was concerned it might not protect the back side enough, but is probably ok. I'm sure he has tested them.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/IMG_25841.jpg
When I made the first ones and all others I jacked my H3 up and let the springs go full droop to see if they touched and they did not.
I think Scorpion also cut his down or a friends to a taper and lower in the back.
All I have is a tiny image he posted, I will attempt to enlarge and sharpen it. There is a thread somewhere on that.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/Scorpioncut.jpg
This is the second generation with the last gen layed up against it to show it gives more clearance from the spring. It could still be cut if anyone is concerned but at full droop they do not touch.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_8037-1.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/cr8046.jpg
This is one I cut for someone with a Rancho.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3179.jpg
I'm willing to work with the few that do a Rancho if you cannot cut them I will. I figure if you are doing the install yourself you probably have the tools and skills to do this and can custom cut them. I don't have any way to know. If you are paying to have it done it might be best to take the cut ones to the installer and have it done at the same time.
Anyway any body with pictures of some from the last batch I would appreciate an installed shot.
I need to get on this I have orders pending and want to get them out so people can go wheeling without damage.
Thanks
Dave Hunter aka Hunner



All these ideas seem to work.

Hunner
02-01-2012, 06:56 PM
I have decided to go back one step. I changed it on the last batch to a flatter angle but think maybe the steeper angle is more to my liking and could be cut 1 inch more if an individual has a problem with that. Not many people are removing their springs on a regular basis and the ones that did for a Rancho know to cut it anyway because of the sagging Rancho springs and they start out with a lower angle in that area.
The red ones are the previous batch and the unpainted is the very last batch which are all gone.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/cr8046.jpg
These are on my Alpha and this is with both rear tires off the ground with sway bar attached and Bilstein shocks. This was the design before the last batch. They all work I just like the way these tuck up.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/fulldroop.jpg

Hunner
02-16-2012, 09:15 PM
I put in an order for 15 sets and a few xtra fronts. I have 7 of the full sets spoken for and will still put anyone on the list that wants them when I get them. Bad news is they can cut them here fairly soon but all the presses are jigged up for a two shift until they are done contract for Snap On so it may be a while. Not sure how long but I will stay on it.
These are the newest ones with a bit more space at the bottom for the larger eye of shocks like the Bilstein has.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_4735-1.jpg
These are mine with the Bilstein and the old style skid. It will not let it go up flush with the shackle plate. I wanted to tweak the bend to allow that.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/4736.jpg
The new style is on the left.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_2332.jpg
Here is the new style in the foreground showing the change in angle and starting a little further back.
I am running a set of the original style on my 08 Alpha and that will work but this allows them to go up just a little higher at the back. I don't plan on changing mine out just for fun!
Always looking of ways to keep up with the use of new products on the H3.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_2333.jpg
contact me if you are interested.

Hunner
05-24-2012, 08:48 PM
Well,,,, as some of you know that wanted the skids I have built, I have been out for awhile. I try not to stock a big pile as I felt surely everyone will have these at some point. New folks have come along and I have a list of those people for when I do get them.
Today was do it or don't. I told the shop I can no longer wait for them and must fill my orders.
I have been successful finding another place that is interested in making them that is still in state. We cannot meet for another week which will be week after next week as we are both too busy.
I have no idea on my price yet as he has only had time for a phone call. I will try to keep the cost as fair as I can and justify the expense to my business. He suggested a new E coat he uses that other than the side that contacts rocks will protect them and is very hard. He says it is cheap to add that. That will let me off from all the media blasting and it will take paint also.
I may have to place a fairly large order to get these so I want to make sure I can move a bunch. I will ask if you need these to please post up that you are interested, depending on price of course, so I can try to get enough for current orders and hopefully keep some around.
I will post a price as soon as get with him the second week of June.
Based on present orders and projecting I figure on buying 40 pairs.

Hunner
06-14-2012, 02:32 PM
I made some progress yesterday.

I went to a new place to get some of the skids made yesterday but still waiting on price and production schedule.
They had two 4000 watt lasers and a 6000 watt monster that cuts 1 inch steel. Awesome to see that thing work.
I was once again told they are interested but it will be awhile or if an opening comes up will be done as a filler.
We should finalize the change over and the other place is sharing our CNC and some other type of file for the laser with them to save time and money.
Having the capability to cut thicker than 1/4 and at a fairly fast rate opens up some other possibilities.
I still like the skid design before and after the hangers and the lower shock protection.
I plan to make a larger order to protect the supply for awhile. Hopefully I don't end up with a bunch of trotline anchors.
I am going to double the number I have on a list of potential buyers.
I will be happy when I can say they are available.

ALPHA of JONESY
06-27-2012, 10:03 PM
Hunner, I am interested in purchasing a set of skids from you for my 08 Alpha. 1. What is the current price for the set? 2.what is your preferred method for puchasing them from you as well as payment? and 3. What is you estimated lead time on completing your next batch and ready for shipment?

Thanks, Landon

Hunner
06-27-2012, 10:17 PM
I will try to get you an answer to those questions tomorrow.
I have it set up on PayPal to simplify things.
Thanks

ALPHA of JONESY
06-28-2012, 01:02 PM
Sweet, thank you very much.

SolidusJ
06-29-2012, 11:23 AM
A MUST HAVE!!!! Great addition to the UCP.

tomp
06-29-2012, 11:28 AM
Excellent quality product from Hunner!

Hunner
06-29-2012, 12:01 PM
Thanks, just trying to help. The guy did not return my call yesterday. I will ring him up again today.

ALPHA of JONESY
06-30-2012, 11:57 PM
No worries, I am a patient person. Like they say, good things come to those who wait.

Hunner
07-01-2012, 10:59 AM
The big concern is I want a set of the new bend and I let the last set I had go to someone needing them before a big trip!!
I will go in person Monday and remind them I still am waiting, but in a very polite way.

Timgco
07-08-2012, 01:54 PM
...sent an overseas freind your way. He has an H3A he is building. We're shipping a bunch of stuff to him. He wants your skids!!! If they are ready in time, we can throw in the container and ship.

Hunner
07-08-2012, 01:59 PM
Thanks, I will try again to get these going. I will hand carry the CNC laser file up there this time.
If I don't have them in time I can still ship overseas, I have done that several times. I will get the details from you when I get some.

58Bisc
07-23-2012, 01:09 PM
Just a quick bump to see if any progress was made. I found a set of BA shock slider to hold me off, but would like a set of your new designed shock slides (I run Bilstein shocks) and of course your spring sliders.

Hunner
07-23-2012, 03:38 PM
Ha ha I just walked in from going to a third place to have them quote me. This is a smaller shop and seem to be very interested. I should have a quote in a couple of days.
I don't know how long the production will take if the price is acceptable. Hopefully it's fair and about the same.
They also are going to make me prototype light pods to fit on my bumper mod.
It has been frustrating trying to get the skids made but I want to keep it local so I have control over them.
I plan to order 40 sets and have over half of those people pre-ordered but have not paid for. I want to wait as always until I get them for money.
I can let you know more in a couple of days if they come thru.
Mine were the old bend and I can see where the Bilsteins have been wearing on them.
Thanks

ALPHA of JONESY
07-26-2012, 06:03 AM
Thanks for the update and I will sure be on the look out for your "I've Got Them" posting.

Hunner
08-03-2012, 04:52 PM
The skids are a different story now.
If you have followed the threads my original fabricator dropped me as he got a huge contract and would no longer provide them at any price.
I was getting a really good deal from them as they needed the work back then.
So even though I have kept the price the same for several batches and absorbed some of the cost I will have to charge more now and make less to keep the price down.
I am getting quotes two and 1/2 times to 6 times my previous cost!
I had five places work up quotes but already see the average is way up.
We got off cheap for a while.
One place called and is twice what I thought was already a really high price so I have to pickup my pattern and drawings from those jerks.
The old price was $165 shipped which I knew was a bargain but not sure anyone knew how good. Hopefully the USPS won't go belly up before I ship these.
More negotiating and talking this up I found a place that a close friend is related to the owners, so has offered me a better deal on a one time basis.
I will have to charge $200 plus $15 shipping to cover expenses, of fabrication and material, shipping, PayPal, income tax, media material and time. I have to run this thru my business to buy them wholesale as again that is the only way they are set up to sell. I also was hit with a minimum now of 40 sets. So I cannot justify throwing out thousands up front for this next batch. I'm not sure how much longer the market will absorb these items. The place that has now agreed to cut me a set for fitment will use a plasma table rather than laser. It was explained and shown to me the slightly beveled edge the plasma torch creates. I want the holes punched for a clean and accurate fit to the ubolts and test fit them to see what happens.
I guess for something we are going to bash over rocks that is not a problem for the other edges.
I invested and speculated in some Hummer parts and had to replace some of my equipment in my boat repair business and pay estimated taxes. I'm still looking for Obam' to "build" my business but he has not showed up yet to powerwash/sand blast with my 4000 psi machines in 110 degree temperatures?
I have to finally accept payment first, make the deposit when I have enough and then start production. Times are tough and to do this legally and cover my business expenses and claim the income I have to do it right. This is just a side project to serve the Hummer community on the forums and I have to be careful with my capitol outlay.
If it all blows up and goes to **** in a hand basket I will of course refund any money collected.
These as most know by now are custom built "skids" that are wider than some others, thicker (1/4 inch), protect the shock mount and provide a "skid" surface to get you over things and DO NOT pre-compress your shock two inches, loosing travel.
I have put the same set I had on my 06 after trying the 3/16 for awhile and upgrading to 1/4, on my 08 thru all of my journeys and feel that has been a good test of their durability.
I have a list of those that have waited and explained at that time the increase was probably going to hit us on this next order I just did not know how much.
So if these pre-sell I will honor the list in the order that I have received the requests.
If not I'm done.
As always until I get my set in two weeks and check them out I don't want payment. Hopefully at that time they will give me a production date and I can make a deposit to begin when I have enough orders to pay.
I don't claim to be a big business and to play it safe I have to put this out there to see what happens.
It would wipe out my play money for making trips and has already caused me to cancel some plans to pay it all up front.
Sorry for the reality check and sticker shock from our oringinal runs of these. It is what it is and I will do my best to get this going. I shopped hard to get the best price.
I just need a confirmation of how many still want these at that price.
Sincerly
Dave Hunter aka Hunner
DBA Secondwind Services

Hunner
08-05-2012, 11:43 AM
If you still want a set of these please let me know. It's only a couple of 30 packs more!
If you no longer want these please let me know
Backwoods
cgalpha08
pappibi
lchase
Delta88
mustanggirl666
AlphaofJonesy
that is my partial list I had
thanks

alrock
08-05-2012, 07:18 PM
Hunner, thanks for all of your hard work on this.

Hunner
08-05-2012, 07:30 PM
I hope I can pull it off one more time.

Lchase
08-06-2012, 10:15 AM
Thanks Hunner,I'm still in!

Larry

falcon
08-08-2012, 12:11 AM
Hunner, thanks for the details.
Please add one more order to the list. I want them shipped overseas.

Haitham (a friend of Timgco).

ALPHA of JONESY
08-10-2012, 10:32 PM
Hunner, You can still count on me for a set, $215 is still a good price and I feel its money well spent for the protection they provide. I will be on the lookout for your "GO, NO GO" update.

cgalpha08
08-10-2012, 10:40 PM
Hunner, i dont need a set, i already bought a set from you back around march

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Hunner
08-14-2012, 12:49 AM
Right now I'm looking at selling these for $200 a set of four pieces and $15 shipping, unless something changes. It's either that or reduce something which could only be not media blasting them and take a bigger hit on what l was making which is not encouraging for the trouble.
I'm still waiting on my test set this week sometime hopefully.
Then they of course want start up money up front, and balance when completed which at the increased cost is beyond what I want to spend to get 40 sets. I may try to get them to let me get 20 but with 25 sort of spoken for I would just have to go back for more and could be even higher.
As I stated on the other thread I would have to get payment up front in order to complete the deal this time as I have made other investments.
Right now my list of 25 that wanted them for several months is fading fast so maybe right now the market is saturated or they are waiting on something new without the features of this design.
That is where it stands for now.
Sorry for repeating any of that, just wanted to make it clear.

Hunner
08-21-2012, 11:15 PM
I have another place that seems to want to deal with these that I went to today. But again not until next week to get a prototype so I can see their skills.
I have not given up yet.
We did negotiate a deal that may come out a bit cheaper and I can get smaller quantities. Let's see if this blows up or not.

H3Hrly
08-22-2012, 04:53 PM
Hunner, please count me in for set of front & back. Just let me know when you want the $$$. Thanks! -Ben

H3Hrly
08-22-2012, 04:55 PM
Btw, I'll be back on ark around Xmas visiting parents. Looking forward to seeing the ozarks again. Go Hogs!

Hunner
08-22-2012, 07:24 PM
Thanks that helps.
I am working on the list hard and contacting as many people that were on the list as I can.
I will go by the list of people that have contacted me that they want them first, for payment after I inspect the sample.
Once again today I traveled north of the river to meet with the last shop and an individual that has a plasma table.
(found out he may not be able to bend them)
This is like a fairy tale.
I think it is a go for one or more places to make me a sample. So I will at least have a set with room for the larger shock mount that comes on Bilstein and maybe others for myself. I just have to wait on them.
If it is a go next week I will inform the low bidder to make at least 10 sets as he agreed would be ok, depending on orders I get.
After that I don't know what will happen on future batches.
This will be for all four pieces shipped. I have not found anyone else offering the fronts but do have some people wanting only those to go with other designs.

Bigunit
08-22-2012, 08:04 PM
Hunner, if/when available, I would like to order a set of the front skids only. Come to think of it, I think that will be the 4th set I order from you. That's a testament to the quality of your product. Again, thanks for making these for us.

H3Hrly
08-23-2012, 05:44 AM
Hunner, does the design change based on shock type? I currently have OEM but will most likely upgrade next year when info the Ranch lift. Excuse my ignorance.

Hunner
08-23-2012, 10:24 AM
Yes, but both will fit. When I got my Bilstein I realized the larger bottom eye was hitting the skid. It's not much but enough you can see wear on the skid. Since to me one of the most important features of this "skid" is to protect the lower shock mount and the bolt from damage I want to make them to allow the skid to fit flush with the spring plate but not touch the shock. The shock should not be any lower than the skid in my opinion, if so what's the point of the skid design? If the eye is scraping it will only be a matter of time before that is either ground off or takes direct hit from a rock from scraping over rock shelves.
Actually the last big batch was made with the rear bend starting further back. They had been for some reason adding a second bend.
Now it stays flat past the first bend and then goes up at 70 degrees. This also makes the rear upper edge a bit shorter under the springs.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_2333.jpg
This first damaged spring plate is not mine but been around awhile. It shows how a "skid" will work better than the oem or any flat plate with a front vertical edge, to avoid blunt force trauma and allow the vehicle to slide over this area. Yeah, you lose 1/4 inch clearance but it saves the shock.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/bentspringplate.jpg
This is my first test of the skids, it also shows that the oem plate with skid added can help prevent damage to the tank skid by supporting the rear as it comes down off of rocks. In my case without the shock skid the tank skid rear edge will take more hits until a mounting tab breaks off, then the welded on balance weight on my drive shaft knocked on the tank skid and sounded like a broken axle. I went home and made the skids.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/_DSC3582_resize.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_4735.jpg
Here is an example of another brand skid that is not wide enough.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/Bdesign.jpg
and what happens without the front ones
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/_DSC2862_resize-1.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_5594.jpg

H3Hrly
08-24-2012, 04:20 PM
Hunner, great feedback!! Thank you. Pictures indeed are worth a 1,000 words. To recap, these will fit for OEM setup, & Rancho lift. I'll be on hot standby to shoot you $$ when you say "fire". Looking forward to extra protection these will provide.

Hunner
08-24-2012, 05:30 PM
The only time there was a question about the Rancho was the saggy springs they supply may arch down more at the front. I had a couple of people concerned about the clearance up there. I cut one set for somebody a little shorter.
It is just something you will have to watch or I could cut a set of the front if you think they need it. I will have to go back and find all that info.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_3179.jpg

Hunner
08-24-2012, 05:41 PM
Just an update I had a call about two places the other day and they said they had a government contract that was a priority one level of acceptance and so they had to stay on that. They make armor for MRaps.
Just today I had a friend call that knew I was still looking for other sources and knows of two places he does business with that said they might be interested.
As it stands now I got the .dxf file from the old place to save time and money for the other place to use on their CNC.
I will go with these guys if they get me a sample next week.
Another place after a month has not come thru. How do these guys do business?
I am trying to refresh the list so I will be ready to send out notifitcation and see if I should contract for more.
I will still need a payment to get going but that will allow me to get some extra.
In no particular order and I have to double check emails and pm's to confirm

mark134
lchase
cddutt
remi700
hellowmynameis
H3hrly
Alpha of Jonesy
Big Unit (fronts)

if you are not on here or don't want them please help me with this and let me know.

ALPHA of JONESY
08-25-2012, 06:01 AM
I'm not on there but include me in your current list; I'm still game for a set.

Hunner
08-25-2012, 11:28 AM
Yeah I got you on another page I see it now. I was having to swap to another page to list current requests.
Thanks

Ed's06h3
08-25-2012, 04:57 PM
Hunner put me down for a set....

Hunner
09-05-2012, 06:08 PM
Current list
mark134
lchase
cddutt
remi700
hellowmynameis
H3hrly
Alpha of Jonesy
Ed's06H3

Hunner
09-06-2012, 03:59 PM
This will be a generic update on the skids.
Today was another bizarre day in steel fabrication. I love a good story, as most know by now.
One place starting three weeks ago, finally called today that a set was ready.
It appears they found some scrap that had a nice protective coating of rust.
Well they used the 1/4 for the brackets instead of 3/16 and one bracket was welded crooked because they did not cut the index slot and the tab on the bracket like I asked. Then they did not start the rear bend 1" further back to fit larger shock eyes. Duh?
They did not make the front ones at all so I could see how the multiple bends would look since they don't have a die for that.
So they basically get an incomplete! I don't trust them to make 120+ pieces that may or may not be consistant and fit.

15 minutes later the place that has had the plans for 6 weeks calls and says they are ready. Other than it got left off to radius cut the turned up edge on the front ones they look good.
They changed the plans while I was there.
They were cut on a plasma water table so appear to have been coated in heated water and got cutting residue, sort of oily on them. I can tell the edges are not as clean cut as the laser but after all we are going to go bash them on rocks! I will knock off any burrs.
I will still have to media blast them so you can get paint to stick if you want to paint yours in your favorite color.
I will wait until it cools off this weekend to install mine. It's 105 heat index now and my shop air packed it up. We are expecting 80's this weekend.
I will try to post up some pictures in a bit.

Hunner
09-06-2012, 04:08 PM
SO, now would be the time to paypal me $215 which includes shipping if you want to get in on these at this price. I had to go with a higher bid to get the quality I wanted but I will keep the projected new price the same. If I get another batch I was told we would have to re-negotiate.
I have a edge with these guys thru a long time friend that is a relative of theirs. (good buddy deal) or I don't think they would mess with this little job.

1secondwind@comcast.net

I will order enough for the listed names and some extra when I have enough money collected.
Depending on their schedule at that time, a guesstimate was two weeks delivery but could vary.
Sorry I can't be like the big guys and continue to speculate with thousands of dollars. (I'm not better off than I was four years ago)
If you are not on the list I posted let me know. I have a paper list here that I am checking over, again.
Whew!!

Hunner
09-06-2012, 07:29 PM
What ever that black coating is after cutting is tougher than I thought. They said it was water spraying up out of the tank after getting heated.
I need to change some filters and hook up my big compressor and hit them again. I want to get in those tight spots good so paint will stick.
They are going to be keepers.
This shot is the set that the fronts did not get a radius cut. I got somebody in mind that wants fronts and I will cut them.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/7073.jpg

Hunner
09-06-2012, 07:45 PM
Please add your forum and screen name to any orders as that is the best way for me to keep track of these.
Also check your Paypal account for your current address.
Oh and do not "gift" me, paypal knows this is a business by the volume of sales.
Thanks

ALPHA of JONESY
09-06-2012, 11:17 PM
I am assuming that the email address your provided 1secondwind@comcast.net (1secondwind@comcast.net) is the path for sending through PayPal?

Hunner
09-06-2012, 11:25 PM
I am assuming that the email address your provided 1secondwind@comcast.net (1secondwind@comcast.net) is the path for sending through PayPal?

YES that is correct.

Bigunit
09-07-2012, 09:18 AM
This shot is the set that the fronts did not get a radius cut. I got somebody in mind that wants fronts and I will cut them.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/7073.jpg

Hunner,
Hoping you remembered to include a set of front skids for me in this order. :sigh: If not. no worries, I can wait.

Hunner
09-07-2012, 10:25 AM
Yea but thanks for checking on me. I have not completely transposed all my written list to the posts yet.
There were a bunch ordered last night and I have not had time to add them.
I plan to order 10 pairs of just fronts while I have this fabricator interested.
I was going to go ahead and radius cut this pair but I think I will wait on some that are already cut so I will have a pattern here at the shop, and I can tell it is by the sharp corners.
I let my last set go and it took some time to get them to understand what it needed to look like from my cardboard pattern!

I have to make about my 10th trip over this morning to the first place and give them a chance to make a set, right. I don't want to burn any bridges as these guys are a small shop and are also willing to work on making some of those large over the spare racks like I have. Nobody else wanted to mess with it.

Hunner
09-07-2012, 10:55 AM
If you are not on here or don't want them please help me with this and let me know.
Some of these are paid and I will update that later.

mark134?
lchase
cddutt?
remi700
hellomynameis ?
H3hrly
Alpha of Jonesy
Big Unit (fronts)
ED's06h3
Falcon

I will try to keep this current

ALPHA of JONESY
09-08-2012, 12:29 AM
Hunner, I just sent you my payment for the skids so be on the lookout for it, Thanks

Bigunit
09-08-2012, 08:39 AM
Hunner, how much do I need to send you for the set of the front skids.



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Hunner
09-09-2012, 01:08 AM
I'm getting close to pulling the trigger on these. I go in Monday to have them tweak a few things. When I get another set and get it installed I will post up my findings.
The more I can get ordered the more leverage I have on them to get going. I have already locked in the price. So anyone else that has not ordered help us out, as a group. This is the time to do it.
I still have not heard back from some people from months ago. I found out some had sold the H3's, shame!
I guess the rest don't hang out much on the forum anymore, lost souls?
Thanks for those that ordered and paid. That will allow me to kick in some boot and get this going.
Dave Hunter aka Hunner
keep on Hummin!
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/6x8nostick.jpg

falcon
09-09-2012, 08:06 AM
Hunner, I don't see my name in the list. Please add me. Thanks

Hunner
09-09-2012, 11:03 AM
lol Falcon, that could be because of the time warp shift between here and there!
I just checked my "international" inbox and sent you a pm on the shipping.
I will stick you on the list.

falcon
09-11-2012, 12:51 PM
lol thank you Hunner

Hunner
09-11-2012, 01:06 PM
Looks like about USPS $117.25 to $120 depending on packing and added weight to the guesstimate of 25+ pounds. They offer a different box than the flat rate and that will allow more stuffing to keep the skids from destroying the box! I have to fill out a customs ticket.
I will let you know when I have some to ship over.

falcon
09-12-2012, 03:04 AM
Sounds good. It's way better than using the ship forward service. Thank you

Hunner
09-22-2012, 10:07 PM
There is still time to get in on this batch if anyone wants to have these.
The latest is that I should have a final sample Monday and then place the order.
Looks like we are going to up the brackets to 1/4" material instead of 3/16 just to upgrade them some.
Thanks for those that have paid.

Bigunit
09-22-2012, 10:10 PM
How much for a set of front skidz only & I'll send you the $ right away. Thank you.

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hellomynameis
09-26-2012, 09:01 AM
I haven't been checking H4O often. I'm on your list, but with a "w" in my user name...
Am I still good to get in on a set? If so, I'll send you some cash!

skeptic
09-26-2012, 09:24 AM
Totally missed this thread. Hunner, can I still get in on this run or am I too late?

Hunner
09-26-2012, 12:53 PM
Both of you can get in. I went over yesterday and took a 36 x 48 sheet of 1/4 steel to the place that is going to make these. They don't keep much flat sheet material for what they mostly do, railings and stairs. That piece was $110!! They had not done the last changes and given me a test set so I asked how I could help. Turns out the metal place the can buy small quantities from is close by my place so I saved them the trip.
They will buy full sheets and have it delivered when they start on these. They weigh 328lbs.
I know changing fabricators has taken some time but these guys are good when they get going. They have so much work they have hired two people since I started trying to get some skids.
I'm going back today and see what they did.
It's going to happen!

skeptic
09-27-2012, 11:41 AM
Pay-pal sent.

Hunner
10-02-2012, 11:21 AM
Monday Oct 1, I went to the shop, they had the material on the table of the Torchmate and started cutting. They have been working this thing for weeks doing other things. It got part of a set cut and a microswitch on the gantry was intermittently failing to stop on one axis of the travel. They are going to try to finish me one set and send the controller off FEDX for a 24 hour turn around to get it repaired. I think I could have fixed that with a switch from a local electronics supplier but they did not want to chance it.
I am now more determined than ever to complete these. The only other place that is slow wants $400 more for 20 sets and I just don't want to take a chance starting over, again!!
So have faith in Hunner to giterdun!

hellomynameis
10-02-2012, 03:04 PM
Slow poke over here just sent you some money via PayPal.

Thanks for your hard work!

Hunner
10-09-2012, 08:24 PM
ALMOST DONE!
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_7229.jpg
I finally picked up a tweaked set of skids today. They need one more adjustment that is in assembly to clear inside the OEM spring plate. I got the potentiometer cleaned up and tightened up for them on the gantry control and hope it will hold until these are cut. I think I can line them out on that in the morning. They are holding the torch table in que to cut these since it is now set for these before they send off the control head for repair.
I can see some edge difference in torch and laser cutting but nothing too bad. They grind the edges a bit and I will give them a sweep with the media blast but not a fine finish. They should hold paint well that way and then we will go out and scrape them on rocks.
While we were retooling for this type of cutting I went ahead and made the bend further back so the Bilstein or any shock with larger than OEM shock eyes should fit.
We decided to make the brackets out of 1/4 as well so we can also use the same sheet material.
That beefed them up so we decided to leave out the gusset since the brackets are captive in the OEM spring plate and are now stronger. That shaves off some labor not cutting those tiny rectangles and welding them in. That sometimes pulled them out of alignment. I was concerned the torch could not cut them accurate either. I keep tweaking until we got as close to the shock as I think we can go with slight variables in assembly and not have interference. So, yea you lose 1/4 inch clearance, maybe a fuzz more with the trade off being your ENTIRE lower shock mount end and bolt are protected, and you don't lose any valuable shock travel. No blunt edges to hang up.
I checked with several of my automotive professional friends that do a lot of this sort of thing all feel like they are even stronger than before. Hefty burned in welds also attach them with the indexed slot and welded back side like before.
If you break one and survive whatever did that let me know, I will keep some spares.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_7215.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_7235.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_7230.jpg
Since I have had mine apart many times I decided this might be time to figure out some new u'bolts I could have made.
The theory is, high torque tightening will stretch the threads. I have always used thread locker and have not had a problem.
But, just to make them available I am working on a price that is reasonable. I don't know yet what a dealer wants.
The OEM are 14mm. Locally at the old established spring shop I have used, makes them to order. They have them in SAE sizes so a I tried a larger 9/16 with the thick hardened washers and tall nuts. They fit thru the OEM plate and we allowed a bit larger hole just in case in the skid brackets.
I got one of mine on that way and will install the other with OEM u'bolts just to make sure there is no issue since we made the brackets 1/4 inch instead of 3/16. I had it figured to work.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_7228.jpg
OEM on the left. My new ones on the right.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_7235.jpg
So if any of those patient paid up order people have any problem with any of that let me know.
I hope they get on cutting these out Wednesday and start welding.
Thank you for yer support!
The design team at Hunner EXtreme (all one of me)

Hunner
10-10-2012, 03:05 AM
Once again I'm double checking my list against the PayPal emails. I'm having some problems cross referencing forum names to emails on that. I have all the Paypal emails but some don't have the forum name to check off just so I know I got everybody by forum name.
Let me know if you are on this list and if not and you have paid pm me your real name so I can match them up.
If anyone else wants in please let me know so I can bump the order while they are cutting.
Thanks

PAID
ED's06H3
58Bisc
H3Hrly
LChase
AlphaofJonesy
Hellomynameis
Skeptic

NOT paid but asked to be on the list
Falcon but waiting on me to get shipping price (he is in a safe location, or in a Galaxy far far away........
Mustanggirl??
Big Unit fronts only?

Schwarttzy
10-10-2012, 10:13 AM
Hey All I have my Hunner Skids for sale don't need them since I made my own thing, powder coated black in Marengo, IL I need cash so offer me a decent price.

skeptic
10-10-2012, 10:32 AM
Hey All I have my Hunner Skids for sale don't need them since I made my own thing, powder coated black in Marengo, IL I need cash so offer me a decent price.
Not to be too nitpicky, but I think this should have been a new thread, not in Hunners..

Hunner - I'm not on your paid list, I don't think you have my screen name/real name matched. :) PM'd you.

Schwarttzy
10-10-2012, 11:05 AM
Not to be too nitpicky, but I think this should have been a new thread, not in Hunners..

O I don't know, seems like a great place. I know if someone had one of my parts I would definitely encourage it... I'm kinda of disappointed by that, makes it feel like it's about greed to me and not us trying to push ourselves and our rigs further in the sport of off-road.

f5moab
10-10-2012, 04:57 PM
Not to be too nitpicky, but I think this should have been a new thread, not in Hunners.
:agree:

Hunner
10-10-2012, 06:48 PM
Thanks for your input guys.
I actually think there is always room for new ideas for those wanting a different approach. Some may want a bit more clearance rather than protection and shock travel my skids provide for the type of wheeling they do.
I think it speaks well of an aftermarket sacrificial component that protects OEM parts and holds up well enough to be re-used by another user.
Mod on!

I spent the day across the river tweaking the file on the 1/4 inch brackets. I found that we could shorten it 1/8 inch more and had to allow for the radius in the OEM bracket in the lower left in the picture. If they get that cut and welded tomorrow we are about ready to push the repeat button.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_7241.jpg

Besides that we programmed to test cut a Hunner beadlock ring to test.
I also had a design bent for Steelcraft brush guard support brace out of heavier material and more room around the bracket holes. One of mine broke so I will get some of these made.
We also loaded up the plan for some over the spare racks and may get that done at some point.
As usual I have to work this in around their real business but so far they are very cooperative and patient.

Hunner
10-11-2012, 02:46 PM
Come to think of it I actually have a set of used skids I took off the Alpha just now that have been on there for awhile. I never got myself a set out of the last batch with the bend further back to clear the bigger eye on the Bilstein. I just lightly media blasted them to remove any loose paint and some light rust where they had scraped on Utah and 9 other states. No deep gouges.
These can work with the Bilstein but in an effort to reduce clearance the skids were tucked up close to OEM shocks. This design ended up touching the larger eye since those shocks were not available before, I was not aware of the larger eye.
(The last batch were modded and this new batch coming has that bend as well.)
These used ones of course work with the OEM or any replacement shock with a similar size lower eye. Like a Monroe.
contact me if interested.
A fresh coat of paint and these would be good to go, they are experienced!
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_7244.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_7243.jpg

Hunner
10-12-2012, 04:46 PM
New tweaked skid today,
"Plasma Cam" is the brand of this device not Torchmate.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/7255.jpg
This thing is older than me! But it can deliver some force.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/7245.jpg
This guy has hands of steel I guess, he does not flinch.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/7256.jpg
Waiting on paint to dry................................

Hunner
10-12-2012, 10:53 PM
Paints dry!
This time we have the brackets so that the skid is sucked up all the way to the OEM plate with the Bilsteins. So there is only 1/4 inch of steel below that plate. Placement of the lower hook in the opening in this picture will allow you to remove it after attaching the skid. The angle here looks like the skid is touching the overload spring but there is 1/2 inch or more as shown on level with the skid.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/7260.jpg
I kept tweaking until now the skid just barely touches the rubber on the shock, not enough to even compress it any. I better stop there and try to keep consistency in the mounting of the bracket. There could be some slight variations after welding but the metal should not rub.
With people concerned about loosing clearance I wanted to make these as close as possible and still provide the protection this design offers.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/7258.jpg
A little tight under there to get my camera in the right place. This one is installed with the upsize 1/4 inch brackets and OEM spring hangers and washers and nuts that come with them. There are 3 or more threads showing. I used threadlocker and will run these this way to see if there is any problem. I used an impact which is the best method to get the plate up tight.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/7269.jpg
After doing this about 8 times in as many days I started using a ratchet strap to hold things together. The Bilstein want to force the OEM plate down and is more than I can hold or push up, line things up start the hangers thru the holes and start washers and nuts all at the same time!!!

These fit closer than I ever had them before. If anyone has problems let me know. I will make it right if you honestly cannot fit them. It takes patience and perseverance. I will try a couple of samples from the production run as well as make sure they make a jig for welding. I will probably remove both my spring plates and take them back up there when they begin welding and build the jig to fit.
This has been a hassle and I hope these will provide an even stronger mounting and better closer fit with OEM shock replacement or equivalent and Bilsteins.
The Hunner

I hope to have them start cutting next week.

ALPHA of JONESY
10-31-2012, 09:50 AM
Hey Hunner, Just checking in to see how progress was coming along.

Hunner
10-31-2012, 01:32 PM
I have not terminated the fabricator yet but I'm getting close! I went there yesterday and at risk of him running me off explained I had to either get these made or terminate the project with him. He again showed me the problem that has re-occurred with his plasma torch. He said he hoped to have me some today. I'm not holding my breath but will go over there this afternoon.
I could feel the tension that it was about time someone started asking. This has been the most frustrating effort I have made in a long time where I was not able to control the outcome.
I apologize for the delay as it was so nice before to get them in a reasonable amount of time. I don't want to start over with another place if this guy can get it together.
Thanks for your patience.

ALPHA of JONESY
10-31-2012, 06:40 PM
No problem, I am amazed on how much of a difficult time you are having finding a reliable, dependable fab shop in your area. Too bad you you are not in Colorado, I have an uncle with a nice fab shop here that could help you out. Thanks for the update and hopefully it didn't seem like I was bugging you about the skids.

Hunner
11-03-2012, 01:40 PM
After this I may explore some offers from forum members that mentioned they thought they could have them made. I'm just concerned that it would take some time for somebody to figure this out and stay on top of the production so they do not get altered. Price of course becomes involved and more shipping and several other bothers. I will try Monday to get some more answers. This has held me back for months from the freedom to travel and I'm getting torqued.

Hunner
11-21-2012, 09:02 PM
The saga continues. After making a round trip across the river twice a week for the last three weeks at about 60 miles round trip, this last place, today when I went over to tell them I had to have the estimate today and finalize the order shot me a price of $100 each for the rear skids. I told them politely while holding back my anger that price was so far out of range I would have to pass. They were two and a half times what I had other quotes for and strung me along for three weeks and had them all layed out in the software.
Crap, so I went to the really large fabricator, who I had talked with three months ago and had told them it would be awhile because I was pre-selling them so I could afford as many as possible to make it worth their effort. They got out the file and I showed them and left the OEM springplate/shock mount for each side and asked them to tweak the file to minimum clearance under that. They were very attentive and we had a good discussion. The order is now placed with them. I asked to please try to give me an estimate of time. That was sort of vague but expected with the Holiday at hand but asked them to please keep me in the loop and give me an update as to the production date next week.
These will cost me $20 more per set but I am absorbing that for having taken so long to get these made. So the paid price is still the same including shipping.
So have faith, Hunner WILL get these done for you guys that had faith in me and have ordered them. The money is still sitting in PayPal and will until I pay out for the product.
Contact me with any concerns you have.
Again I apologize for the delay but it has not been because I have not stayed on this.

Lchase
11-21-2012, 09:29 PM
Hunner I really appreciate the hard work your putting into this, its just to bad these places don't want to make money keep up the good work man!

Lchase
01-08-2013, 03:38 PM
Hey Hunner, any news on this batch of skidz?

Hunner
01-08-2013, 11:25 PM
They told me to wait for news mid week after the Holiday shut down, so I will run by tomorrow afternoon and report back. I have found chewing the fat in person gets any of these places attention more than just another phone call.
I apologize again for this long delay. I would have never figured on this happening.
I'm paying the difference in cost to go to this bigger place but feel they will deliver.
I will post what they tell me tomorrow.

Lchase
01-09-2013, 02:54 PM
No worries man, thanks for the update.

ALPHA of JONESY
02-04-2013, 05:39 AM
Hey just wanted to see how the battle was coming along?

Hunner
02-04-2013, 10:50 AM
Well I was reluctant to jinx things but last week they were cutting the fronts. Claimed to try to have the rears cut and might get them welded this week!
Remains to be seen, but I'm staying in town, just in case.
I will be relieved when these are finally done.
I can tell the troops are getting restless, you all have been very patient.

Hunner
02-07-2013, 10:08 PM
Just sayin,
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_0448.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_0449.jpg
Final tweak today and they started cutting the rears. Not sure if they will have them all welded by end of day Friday.

skeptic
02-08-2013, 10:19 AM
So you're saying we may get them in time for spring wheeling? :cheers:

Lchase
02-08-2013, 11:21 AM
:drool:

Hunner
02-26-2013, 12:20 PM
FINALLY!!!!
Ok, I would have never thought starting over with a new place, (several) would take this long.
Thank you for being so patient.
I got these and it was explained to me that since they buy steel in such large quantities that they get it from a supplier that sells it coated with some anti-rust so when it sits in the yard it does not deteriorate.
I tried media blasting and it would shine up but is really slow. They were attentive to detail and weld like boiler makers. In fact they are building a 60 foot one. They ground down the bottom welds to make them flush and even hit most splatters.
I feel like it is best to leave what is stuck on so well on there. I will hit them overall with the media and smooth out some of the grinding.
After all we are going to go out and slide them over rocks!!
If I just hit the surface overall it will clean them up and add some "tooth" for paint to stick.
I got boxes ready but will have to go get a $40 roll of heavy shipping paper to keep them from tearing up the boxes. It will take me couple of days to get them out in the order I received payment.
Thanks again and I hope these serve you well.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_1313.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_1314.jpg
Here is one I "swept" with the media and a shot of their welds.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_1318.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_1317.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_1319.jpg
ps: After they finished these the next thing they bent, the 220 ton press hammer shattered! Whew!

ALPHA of JONESY
02-27-2013, 12:05 PM
I am so excited, Christmas is going to be here again real soon. HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY. HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY.HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY.HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY.HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY.HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY.HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY.HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY.HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY.HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY.HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY.HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY.HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY.HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY.:hans:


I better get yours out soon!
Hunner

Hunner
03-01-2013, 12:38 AM
Three more of the pre-paid sets to media blast, boxes are assembled, labels are printed. Hopefully I can finish up and make the mail which does not go out at the PO until late afternoon. I will ask if the Flat Rate Priority boxes move on Saturday.
I might not be able to stand up in the morning!
I had the holes for the u-bolts made so they would fit 9/16 u-bolts which are bigger than OEM which are metric. So that gives some wiggle room and if you want to get new u-bolts they will probably be SAE at a local spring company. It was just a thought. The holes next to the front brackets are close if you use the OEM nuts with washers made on them. That was in an attempt to adjust the bracket to fit into the shock plate where they are curved so the skid should almost be flush.
If anybody has a problem some slight grinding may be needed. I don't think that will be needed if they are consistant. They used an extra set of plates to use as a template and the holes are bigger than OEM bolts. Just run them up with a ratchet first and check the alignment and then if you have an impact crank them down.
Mine fit good. Pictures tomorrow, I'm whupped.

Hunner
03-01-2013, 05:39 PM
I again worked on the fitment of a new skid just now. It works to use thread locker, start all the nuts, leaving the back ones short of the skid, tighten the front ones up hard. Then run up the rears, making sure you have some thread showing. If you get it just right the skid will clear the bottom and back of a Bilstein or other large shock eye. That was what I was working so hard on with this last fabricator and it took three tries to get that right and make the front bracket less wide to clear the curve in the OEM plate and allow the skid to go up closer than before.
It was tough to get both angles right to see the clearance. My "Red" Purple Cranium diff cover was in the way of the camera.
(By the way, for the photo guys, this was shot using my D600 Full Frame digital, 50mm prime lens, and on board flash.) I like it!
I wanted to show how in this case the shock does not touch. Hopefully they are all consistent. I used a heavy wall extended socket and had no problems getting it on the nut. I also had the holes made a bit bigger in the bottom so there was wiggle room for the socket and easier to flush out mud and pea gravel.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_1373-4x6.jpg

Hunner
03-02-2013, 12:19 AM
I have a few left at this time at this price if anyone else wants to get some while I have them.

Hunner
03-02-2013, 09:52 PM
There will be some happy Hummer drivers about Tuesday if the mail goes thru.

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_1377.jpg

hellomynameis
03-04-2013, 05:24 PM
Got my skids today! Thanks for all of your hard work on this.

One quick question, though....is there a 'right' and a 'left'? In some pictures it seems that the inside of each should be flat and the outside angled, but in the more recent pictures they all look to have the right side (large side down, bottom facing you) angled.

Bigunit
03-04-2013, 08:03 PM
Dave, payment sent for a set of front skids. Thanks again for making this run happen! :cheers:

Ed's06h3
03-04-2013, 08:07 PM
Thanks Hunner I received the skids today...

Hunner
03-04-2013, 08:11 PM
Got my skids today! Thanks for all of your hard work on this.

One quick question, though....is there a 'right' and a 'left'? In some pictures it seems that the inside of each should be flat and the outside angled, but in the more recent pictures they all look to have the right side (large side down, bottom facing you) angled.


In that picture of all the pairs your just seeing the half that shows which is just random of how I picked them up.
At least I hope they are all matched sets of left and right, I wonder about me sometimes.
The straight edge goes towards the wheel.

Hunner
03-05-2013, 02:00 AM
I am going over the list now but need to confirm that you guys may have two rights by mistake.

There are probably 3 sets like that, damn!!

I am having trouble here I can't explain for sure.
When I was trying to get these ready I unloaded them and they were locked together I assumed, stacked in pairs I assumed were one of each. (we know what assume can mean)
When I media blasted them I kept them together without checking them and got six of all the same side in a pile some how.
I just separated what I have left into proper pairs and have here 6 left side which is the drivers side. Straight edge goes toward the wheel when looking at it from the back and the back is the tallest bend.
I have six orphaned lefts so I think that explains it.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_1379.jpg

As soon as I hear from others I will immediately send a left even before receiving the other back. It would be good if you could send a picture of the side by side from the rear or tallest bend to double confirm this or just read my explanation.
Please return "one" when we determine you have two rights, in a medium flat rate box to cut my loses.
I will refund the shipping to you thru paypal.
So sorry too many things going on at once.

Hunner
03-05-2013, 02:03 AM
Got my skids today! Thanks for all of your hard work on this.

One quick question, though....is there a 'right' and a 'left'? In some pictures it seems that the inside of each should be flat and the outside angled, but in the more recent pictures they all look to have the right side (large side down, bottom facing you) angled.

You may be one of the lucky ones that got two rights, OOOPPs:emb:
read the explanation below.
I need to know which two you have and I can get one at that day, tomorrow if you are a hoot owl like me.

The flat rate box for one is a 0-FRB2 which is a flat flat rate box.
The box is free and it costs $12.35 to ship which I will gladly refund.
Use my return address on the box you received when you can.
Thanks
Dumb Dave

Lchase
03-05-2013, 12:32 PM
I got mine yesterday, and I was all excited like a kid at christmas, That I didn't notice until reading this, it looks like I have 2 of the same side.

9258

Hunner
03-05-2013, 12:40 PM
Uhh I'm not sure that angle on the one in the picture on the right is hard to tell if the angle is on the right. If it is just swap sides with them and shoot a picture straight down on them just to make sure. I think I have already figured out who got them and have matched up what I have left.
But at this point let's double check.

Hunner
03-05-2013, 12:46 PM
This what a proper pair looks like from the rear. Driver left and passenger right side of vehicle.
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac336/DHunter_bucket/DAH_1381.jpg

Lchase
03-05-2013, 12:54 PM
yeah sorry, that pic is kind of hard to tell, its all i have on my phone right now, but once I get home from work I can take a good look and confirm.

Lchase
03-05-2013, 07:48 PM
Just got home and confirmed, I've got 2 ride sides.

9266

Hunner
03-05-2013, 08:16 PM
Sorry, that really messes with my mind because of the number of lefts I have. Oh well!
I will shoot you a left out tomorrow.
Send me the other one when you can.
Thanks

Lchase
03-05-2013, 10:57 PM
No problem man, stuff happens.

ALPHA of JONESY
03-06-2013, 09:00 AM
Hunner, just got mine on Monday and they look great. Thanks for pushing through with the fab process and I cant wait to get some extra time to install them.

Hunner
03-06-2013, 11:47 AM
Are you sure you hava left and right. There may be two more that got two rights or they sent me some extras.
If you have a good set I hope the install goes well.

hellomynameis
03-06-2013, 03:28 PM
Hunner, you have a PM.

Hunner
03-06-2013, 03:46 PM
Ha ha ok I got it. Your the first to have two lefts or drivers side. Man I gotta go on a expedition, soon!!
There is one more to report in, I think??
I sent you a pm. That right one will go out right now.

Lchase
03-06-2013, 04:08 PM
Hey Hunner
I just sent that one out to you today, so you should have it by the end of the week.

Hunner
03-06-2013, 05:49 PM
Thanks that will help because that is about the last of them. When I get back all the stragglers to make a complete set or two.
Sorry for the mix up, trying to burn the candles at both ends and I got burnt! ha ha

Lchase
03-08-2013, 11:17 PM
hey Hunner, I'm good to go I received the skid today, did you get the one I sent back to you?

Hunner
03-08-2013, 11:41 PM
Yes it came tonight. My UPS guy comes around 7pm. Great paint job. I think I will just leave it painted for the next guy. It found a mate and they are happy.
Thank you for getting that back to me.

Hunner
03-10-2013, 10:37 PM
I have shipped all the orders that I had Pay-Pal payments for. If somehow you paid and did not get any contact me. I have checked my lists numerous times and have copies of all the Paypal transactions so that is what I use to final check my lists.

I have four people listed only recently that asked if I still had some of these I replied I did but have not received payment.
So as it stands now I only have two sets.
If I get back two more rights I will have four.
So first come gets them.

I'm holding a set to go to Saudi Arabia
If you read this Falcon check your pm.

Thank you all I'm sorry it took so long.
Go test them!

Bigunit
03-10-2013, 10:41 PM
Nothing here.

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapataint

Hunner
03-10-2013, 11:18 PM
Well let's see here "what dun happened"
I have a receipt that I sent it on March 6th and expected delivery of Friday March 8th.
Fronts only.
So, see if you get it Monday or not. They so far have not lost one but.........I did insure them just in case.
They are supposed to still deliver packages on Saturday so if it went to your office that could be the case if no one was there.
Let me know, I got more.

Bigunit
03-10-2013, 11:23 PM
No worries, Hunner. I'm sure they will be there tomorrow. I did give you my office address & the office isn't open on Saturdays. I'll shoot you a pm as soon as they arrive. Thanks again and I can't wait to get them welded on the CE as the modding of the CE has begun!

Hunner
03-11-2013, 11:49 AM
News
Yaaaa, glad they made it. They only work if you install them!
Thanks

Bigunit
03-11-2013, 11:57 AM
Thank you! Now, just need to weld them on.

08Alpha
03-13-2013, 06:18 PM
Any sets left? What was the final price for all 4 shipped? Nice work and kudos to you for staying on top of the design changes and build.

Hunner
03-13-2013, 06:55 PM
The smoke has cleared and I got my orphans back.
Yes if you want a set grab them. I have 5 full sets of four pieces each left.

Paypal is $215 for all four shipped.
Do not "gift me" they know it's a business by now.
Make sure your address is correct on paypal.
Please include your forum name and which forum you are on in the comment area of PayPal
That is how I keep up with all this. I have no idea who people are by their real names!! haha
paypal
1secondwind@comcast.net
Thanks Dave Hunter aka Hunner

edit (make that 4 since I posted this 6:45 pm CST or is that CDST another one sold)

Hunner
03-26-2013, 11:47 PM
I got three more to sell at this time at this price if any of you that inquired still want them.

justin94tt
03-27-2013, 11:25 PM
Great product! I would have thought almost every H3 was equipped with a set by now.

Hunner
03-27-2013, 11:32 PM
Yeah me too!
Apparently with people trading the H3's in for whatever reason, fear of owning a vehicle no longer made, warranty ended or just high mileage more people are justifying buying one to offroad.
I hope these continue to protect the H3 or T's that are left.

Panzer07
04-30-2013, 11:46 PM
do you still have sets left im more than interesting on purchasing one

Hunner
05-01-2013, 01:12 AM
Got a couple to sell.
Pm me.

Panzer07
05-07-2013, 12:39 AM
I got my skid set today, and installed them myself. Really great products.

Hunner
09-19-2013, 01:43 PM
I was digging my shop out to do some prep work and I have two more of the last batch of skids left. I had held them back until I was sure all the orders were correct.
I will sell those at the $215 price shipped all four pieces.

I have two more sets of the style that allowed bigger eye shocks like the Bilstein to slightly touch the back slope. I have found now I can just tighten the front bolts a bit more first and then run up the back with no issues. I will provide new front pieces with those.
One set was on my H3 but never hammered hard on anything just some surface scratches.
Anyone interested in those pm me and I will send pictures and a price.
I can't seem to get time to get out there and go thru all this stuff because I'm gone so much, havin fun!

ABNTROOP
09-19-2013, 11:05 PM
PM sent!

Hunner
09-20-2013, 01:29 PM
1 full set of the last batch left now..............

H3Ray
12-26-2013, 02:15 AM
Hi Hunner,
I would like a set for my Alpha H3.
Please advise payment, details, etc.
I can shoot you $215 your PP ...
Thanks.

Hunner
12-29-2013, 12:54 AM
I sent a pm with pictures of what I have left. One of my used sets and some samples is all I have left. The market sort of dried up and I don't want to shell out $2000 for another batch at this time.
I can discount you a set of these.

I have not had any requests so it may be end of life for those and H3's! lol, but mine is working fine with all my mods still functioning.

Aggie H3T
06-15-2014, 08:36 PM
Hunner, I picked up a set of your skids from SolidusJ's a couple weeks ago but he was unable to remove the two welded front skids. Would you happen to have a line on a set of the front skids that you weld on to install?

Hunner
06-15-2014, 09:26 PM
Sorry, I scraped up a pair of sample rears for someone a couple weeks ago and had two new fronts I was keepoing for a pattern.

Your best bet is make a cardboard template of his and find a place to cut you some.

It takes a large press to make that bend in several passes.

Aggie H3T
06-15-2014, 11:41 PM
Will do. I may PM you if I have any questions regarding measurement issues. Thanks.

Hunner
06-16-2014, 03:55 AM
It wasn't too scientific, the first ones were made from a Diet Dr Pepper carton pattern!

Hunner
10-12-2014, 12:03 PM
Here is a tip I recall now that I replaced shocks.

If you have my skids you can jack up by the rear diff first, place jackstands under the frame forward of the wheels on the front skids.
Remove the wheels so you can see and get around better.
Then remove the center jack under the diff and place one under either side of the diff at the end and jack it up as far as it will go.

Doing this you can just squeeze a Bilstein in from the side of the skid and into the OEM shock mount.

If you don't know, these gas shocks when the shipping strap is removed will fully extend. I can't hold them back or compress them with out a second jack and sometimes use a pry bar to move them over to the mount.

That is with the top already bolted in.

Hummeron37s
10-12-2014, 06:32 PM
I've had my Hunner skids for 4 years I think and they have held up to everything I put them through. Every year or so I hit them with a touch up coat of desert orange metallic..great product. Thanks for making them.

Hunner
10-12-2014, 07:54 PM
Good to hear positive feedback. Thanks

I have put mine thru the test many times.

I very seldom get a request anymore so I figure the market is drying up. I can think of only three in the last year.

Maybe if enough new people come along I could TRY and beg for a small order, but pricing could be an issue.

These places I have had them made are used to giant pieces and large orders.

I may have worn out my welcome.

GreatDaneHummer
10-17-2014, 01:33 PM
You can count me in for a set next time around. I would like to provide better protection for my Hummer H3.

Hills
10-17-2014, 02:38 PM
Count me in as well!

IISPEEDYII
10-21-2014, 10:37 PM
Id get a pair if they work with the rancho!

Hunner
10-23-2014, 10:33 PM
There are several people with them on a Rancho setup.

rascole
12-05-2014, 02:54 PM
Front leaf spring mount skids available?

Hunner
12-05-2014, 05:05 PM
Sorry, I sold all I had.

4speedfunk
12-09-2014, 08:41 AM
I will be cutting some off an H3T in the next week (part of a SAS/SOA project). I will post some pics if I can get them off in one piece.

Hunner
12-09-2014, 01:08 PM
Slice and dice? lol I cut a set off once with a thin blade grinder but it was tough.

4speedfunk
12-09-2014, 02:52 PM
Plasma! All of ten seconds.

MANCHAMP88
07-24-2015, 03:45 PM
Do you still make them may need some soon

Hunner
07-25-2015, 12:54 PM
Nope that market dried up. Sold over 250 sets and it sort of dropped off.
Can't justify the price for a small batch.

Hunner
03-11-2016, 12:36 AM
I was pleased I was asked, so I gave permission to outsource some of the fronts if anybody needs some email me.

I would rather see people get these if they need them than not.

I burned out on trying to get them made locally.

1secondwind@comcast.net

alrock
03-12-2016, 11:01 PM
These are such a great product. Hunner, again thank you for making these

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Bigunit
03-12-2016, 11:55 PM
NOTE: Hunner is not making these anymore. He's gone corporate 'merica on us and is third-party licensing/outsourcing these at this time.

Hunner
03-13-2016, 04:08 AM
It was nice to have been asked before someone started making them.

They are made in America!

I never felt like I had any right to them just wanted to provide a source and did so many times.

I didn't build that the government did?????

CBphoto
03-13-2016, 07:09 PM
OH....far from Corporate America, it's me having them made up. Prototype done & fitted, batch being produced now. Just a little guy making needed Hummer parts.

Contact Hunner if you want a set.

Bigunit
03-13-2016, 08:19 PM
It's good to see someone picking up the torch and continuing to make these for the HUMMER community.

H3slate
03-15-2016, 05:25 PM
I think i missed it, who is making the skids now?

Mine have been very durable and held up great. Getting ready to take them off the old H3 so I can put them on the new one.