TAPDH3T SOA Build

[TAPDH3T]

It's time to get serious and put this on paper!! Now that its here I have to do it.. IM OBLIGATED!!!!
Went to my local Offroad shop and they suggested that i use a standard 1500 serious spring instead of the 3/4ton spring.. Reason is that the spring rate compared to my truck weight will prolly beat the hell out of me on dirt roads.. With the 1500 series I will get the tow capacity of a full size pickup.. Also advised that there should be no issue with axel wrap and no need to lengthen the axel.. If for any reason I do they can get it done cheap.. Well I went toy local salvage yard were I get my good deals and will pick a new pair of Chevy springs tomorrow.. Next is get the other needed items and boom either pay the $300 or do it myself...

 

[06 H3]

It will be a great mod, I think you are the first to venture away from stock springs when doing a spring over....

You have the link to all the mounts and crap you need on ruffstuff correct?

 

[TAPDH3T]

It will be a great mod, I think you are the first to venture away from stock springs when doing a spring over....

You have the link to all the mounts and crap you need on ruffstuff correct?

 

[RamRod]

Subscribed!

Planning to do this in November to celebrate the end of warranty haha


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[TAPDH3T]

We are on the same page because mine ends is October!! Lmao.. I plan having a full service done just before I jump in... Heck I only have 30,000 miles on her!!!

 

[06 H3]

Those are the wrong hangers if you are using stock springs. Ill look into what u need with your other springs

 

[TAPDH3T]

Those are the wrong hangers if you are using stock springs. Ill look into what u need with your other springs

Appreciate it!! I thought I pulled these from ur thread.. It would of sucked if I purchased the wrong ones...

 

[06 H3]

What do they mean "lengthen the axle"

 

[TAPDH3T]

What do they mean "lengthen the axle"

Haaaaa that's me typing faster then I can think.. I'm talking about the drive shaft....

 

[06 H3]

The Chevy springs you want to use is the same diameter as our stock ones so u will use the same hanger the rest of us have used

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com...t_Code=275-HANG&Category_Code=springshackhang

 

[06 H3]

Haaaaa that's me typing faster then I can think.. I'm talking about the drive shaft....

You can drive with a stock one no problem but I would still lengthen it how much lift are u gonna get? Even if its less then what we have you still should.

 

[TAPDH3T]

You can drive with a stock one no problem but I would still lengthen it how much lift are u gonna get? Even if its less then what we have you still should.

Not sure yet! My goal is to
Combat sag and add more tow capacity... I'm hoping to gain possibly around 2" or so in the rear.. And level the best I can in the front..
I don't want to be to tall but I want some space for these 37s to move...

 

[06 H3]

Personally I would do the spring over with stock springs and the bebe spring mod where you use a Chevy 2500 spring cut down in between the main spring and the second spring. You will definitely level out get rid of sag leave a nice smooth ride the stickers are meant to provide and the added spring will help with towing capacity. Id start with oem springs and go from there.

 

[TAPDH3T]

Personally I would do the spring over with stock springs and the bebe spring mod where you use a Chevy 2500 spring cut down in between the main spring and the second spring. You will definitely level out get rid of sag leave a nice smooth ride the stickers are meant to provide and the added spring will help with towing capacity. Id start with oem springs and go from there.

I understand ur reasoning.. I'm trying to do as much research as possible before I do any cutting..
One issue I have is that I don't have OEM Springs.. And I can get stock Chevy springs for $50.. The goal is a cost effective MOD that will enhance quality, ride, lift, and offroad capability..
Here are some specs for the Chevy springs...

Hummer spring
Looks if I go to the 4/1 ratio I will gain almost 1000lbs extra pounds of tow..
Do we know how much extra tow capacity BeBe gained...
I will do the mod that is best suited if its just OEM, BeBes Mod, or Chevy springs...

 

[bebe]

If you don't have OEM springs what do you have?

 

[bebe]

Our leaf springs are off set, those 32 x 32 will change your geometry because the axle will need to be moved back to place the center pin correctly AND you'll have to move the hanger further forward.

I searched for a few months looking for an offset spring that had a heavier load capacity (note I said, load not tow - two different things) and there are none. There may be now, you'd have to search around.

 

[RamRod]

If you don't have OEM springs what do you have?

I believe he has a set of Rancho springs from the 4" lift

 

[bebe]

So then he can use those....and just cut a Tahoe spring if he needs too.

 

[TAPDH3T]

So then he can use those....and just cut a Tahoe spring if he needs too.

Thanks BeBe I figured that would be an issue.. I was thinking that Chevy used a standard size I guess that's just width!!!
I think u went with a 2500 spring.. Is that what u recommend??

 

[TAPDH3T]

Is it not possible to cut both mount points to center the spring???

 

[bebe]

Thanks BeBe I figured that would be an issue.. I was thinking that Chevy used a standard size I guess that's just width!!!
I think u went with a 2500 spring.. Is that what u recommend??

We used a 2500 Tahoe spring (tow package).

 

[bebe]

Is it not possible to cut both mount points to center the spring???

No.You can't center the spring on the axle, you want an off set spring. You can cut either end of a spring so that it fits properly next to the eye of the main leaf like we did.

And while we are talking about it - tow capacity and load capacity are two different things. Towing capacity includes the load capacity, however it also requires heavier duty motor and trans. It's harder to increase the towing capacity than the load capacity because it requires re-gearing, trans up grades, and maybe motor/tuning upgrades. It's a little more complicated than just leaf springs.

 

[TAPDH3T]

No.You can't center the spring on the axle, you want an off set spring. You can cut either end of a spring so that it fits properly next to the eye of the main leaf like we did.

And while we are talking about it - tow capacity and load capacity are two different things. Towing capacity includes the load capacity, however it also requires heavier duty motor and trans. It's harder to increase the towing capacity than the load capacity because it requires re-gearing, trans up grades, and maybe motor/tuning upgrades. It's a little more complicated than just leaf springs.

Lol breaking my heart BeBe...
And don't get all specific. U know what I mean lmao ;P
Well I will be using the BeBe method.. And I guess I will use my Rancho Springs..

 

[TAPDH3T]

Other then the obvious sag issue are the any other issues that come along with the Rancho springs or should I just man up and find so OEM...

 

[spillKill]

I have been wondering this so let me just ask away. I am not very mechanical at all and like to just leave it up to the professionals but how hard is it to do a SOA and how long does it take to swap everything out? also I go wheeling about once a month would this mod be worth the time?